Final Cut Pro

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:34 am

Hi there,
I have to mix a documentary movie,and i get the Audio as OMF from
Final Cut Pro.So here‘s the problem.Everything is in sync,all Crossfades and the mamings of the tracks is o.k. But the fades are to short??? The In and Out fades.Strange.Any sugestions??

Thanks a lot

Jens

DP 5.1 Traveller,G5 Dual 2.3 10.4.8 6 GB RAM

twistedtom · Post by **twistedtom** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:06 am

First do you have FCP? If yes then it is an simi easy fix. In FCP go to the time line, make the time line larger so you can select the crossfades.
using the select tool duble click the crossfades one at a time. they will show up in the left window, you can then drag the size of the crossfade to any size you want.

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:16 am

Hi,
maybe I dont find the right words.
The problem is that the original fades (from the Cutter) are ,after Import DP
to short.Not the fades in there way but the lenght of the files including the fades are to short.
I can make tham longer,you see there is enough material.So how come that the files inclt. the fades are correct in FCP but not in DP after the OMF Import.

Thanks again
Jens

marcmarc · Post by **marcmarc** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:30 am

When FinalCut (every app. with OMF export has the same option) exports to OMF, it consolidates the soundbites.
You have to specifie how many lenght is kept before and after the edits.
So, in the Final Cut's export to omf menu, you can set the size of the handles (the hidden soundbite before and after the edit).

mhayesmusic · Post by **mhayesmusic** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:41 am

I second marcmarc's suggestion..... the problem lies in the "handle" size. If you don't have FCP tell the pitcure editor to make you a new OMF and expand the handle size. The best option is to use the maximum handle size I believe it is 999 frames. This will give you all you need and will probably get you some "room tone" or "ambient sound" (everybody calls it something different) to use for your dialogue edit. Obviously some of the actual sound files my not have an extra 999 frames, however the ones that do will give you plenty of extra to recreate nice long fades and cross fades. Also, if the picture editors have done any "premixing" or "preleveling", FCP will not export that information to an OMF (only AVID does this). You will need an application called "Automatic Duck" to translate the volume graphing. I have never used this with DP but I have had experience with "Auto Duck" and ProTools. Actually works fairly well.

mhayesmusic · Post by **mhayesmusic** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:41 am

I second marcmarc's suggestion..... the problem lies in the "handle" size. If you don't have FCP tell the pitcure editor to make you a new OMF and expand the handle size. The best option is to use the maximum handle size I believe it is 999 frames. This will give you all you need and will probably get you some "room tone" or "ambient sound" (everybody calls it something different) to use for your dialogue edit. Obviously some of the actual sound files my not have an extra 999 frames, however the ones that do will give you plenty of extra to recreate nice long fades and cross fades. Also, if the picture editors have done any "premixing" or "preleveling", FCP will not export that information to an OMF (only AVID does this). You will need an application called "Automatic Duck" to translate the volume graphing. I have never used this with DP but I have had experience with "Auto Duck" and ProTools. Actually works fairly well.

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:29 am

Thanks all of you,
In the next time I work with a longer version of this movie, so maybe I‘will have some new experiences! Same Cutter, same FCP.

Greetings

Jens