Melodyne plugin: Hmmm. this could be interesting...

DonaldDriver · Post by **DonaldDriver** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:52 pm

I was excited about the Melodyne plugin until I found out it's the same as the Melodyne Bridge except you instantiate it as a plug-in. Still a long, backwards pain in the butt for pitch correction that I do more easily with auto tune.

i use Melodyne for my pitch shifts and time stretching, though.

this is really a lot of fuss over not a lot of change

question: how good is the pitch automation in 5.11 compared to 4.61? I haven't invested much time into 5.11 because I found the 4.61 pitch correction in dp too buggy

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:35 pm

RecordingArts wrote:I don't know. It looks a little like Celemony's but I have no idea. I would pay a couple hundred bucks to have Celemony built in rather than have to use a plug in....

Tim wrote:Is DP pitch correction another company's technology (licensed)?

Whoops......I just saw that you mentioned this in your original post. The cons of skimming.......

brett · Post by **brett** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:02 pm

it would be nice to see the streching made as simple as the pitch automation in DP. Simply create a region and drad the ends where you want them like in celemony.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:56 pm

brett wrote:it would be nice to see the streching made as simple as the pitch automation in DP. Simply create a region and drad the ends where you want them like in celemony.

This is a DP feature.
Move the cursor to the edge of the soundbite's top bar and a hand should appear. The Celemony one looks (and sounds) cooler though.

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:31 pm

Tim wrote:This is a DP feature.
Move the cursor to the edge of the soundbite's top bar and a hand should appear. The Celemony one looks (and sounds) cooler though.

Am I the only on who thinks it got better in DP 5.11? Anybody actually using it?

waterstrum · Post by **waterstrum** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:09 am

I'm using pitch and stretch all the time in DP and combined with AT, I am very happy. No bugs yet for me.
If Melodyne really worked as a plug, I would give it a go too.

stickwolf · Post by **stickwolf** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:21 am

As I said, the only way for pitch and time control to really work well is WITHIN the host, not even as external as a plugin (and CERTAINLY NOT a plugin that isn't active until you record into it like a separate program).

DP is great, and its pitch stuff was what lured me to it when I switched from Cubase VST. The lacking aspect of DP's built in stuff is essentially that it just doesn't put out results that sound as fantastic as Melodyne. Also for me it won't be usable until I can slide pitches around to exact cents offsets, not just a vague visual offset of some unspecified amount.

DP's pitch stuff is NOT licensed. I don't seriously think we'll see them license Melodyne or anything else into their system, though I will wish for it. But if MOTU can improve DP to the point where the sound is nearly as good for most things as Melodyne, and the interface becomes at least close to as friendly and adjustable as Melodyne, that would be fantastic. Then I'd just use DP and its built-in stuff for 95% of everything...

As for Melodyne plugin, there is ONE good thing about it: that it shows Celemony is concerned about trying to better integrate with hosts. So if they keep that concern, maybe eventually they'll come up with an integration plan that actually integrates. Right now even the plugin is basically just a slightly more convenient way to export audio and then re-import it after editing. So it is really not integrated at all.

bradycline · Post by **bradycline** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:29 am

Sonar seems to have gone with licensing for their pitch correction. I've fiddled with it on a friend's machine and it seems like it can do a lot of what Melodyne can do, but in an easy, integrated way. (I can't really say if the results are stellar though.)

http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/vvocal.asp
(Online demos. What a concept!)

I don't want to use a PC or Sonar particularly, but they've been moving along with improvements at break-neck speed. A lot of the new features are quite attractive. If Motu doesn't have the resources to keep up (just bug fixes seem painfully slow) then maybe they ought to divert some of that marketing budget towards purchases of technology such as Melodyne. (Then again, Mach 5. . .)