Kontact 2.2 UB is here ! Where is M5 UB?

[bezzy]

Well, I will wait for a bit for Motu to upgrade the M5, If they don't then I guess there is no choice but to buy Kontact if I want a sampler for my Mac Pro and DP. It would be nice if MOTU would give a revised timetable of the new Mach 5 release or if they intend to discontinue the product.

[Frodo]

bezzy--

there are already several threads of humor, frustration, and mystery over the whereabouts of M5v2. Many M5 users share your sentiments.

It is a profound question as NI moves forward with its developments in UB format as the wait for even M5 v1 UB grows increasingly mysterious. We're almost a year into the Intel-Mac series of computers and those who once used M5 on PPC Macs all are wondering if they've been left hanging out to dry on their new Mac Pros.

Many users have already switched over to K2, and one wonders what impact this is having on MOTU's M5 users as a whole. There are many here who have not gone to K2 as of yet, but once M5 UB is a confirmed no-show, users who will get an Intel-Mac (sooner rather than later) will have no choice but to salvage their workflows with software that is available and compatible on the Intel-Mac platform.

In fairness, this must be as awkward for MOTU as it is for M5 users-- whatever it is that necessitates their silence on the nearly two-year delay must be serious enough to warrant greater damage should an explanation be released rather than to openly inform its users.

I'm a MOTU fan and I root for them-- even for as critical as I can be of them. I certainly hope they are not in trouble (and presently I doubt that is the case). I do feel that the 22 month mystery behind the missing M5 update has had an impact on market impression at the very least. It remains to be seen whether this delay does irreparable damage to consumer interest.

If you can hold out for a couple of more months (a lot to ask, I know) let's see what the word is at NAMM in January. I'm not going to really start worrying myself unless there is no mention of at least a UB version of M5 (v.1 or 2) or any word about M5v2 itself. I can't imagine MOTU tipping gracefully through NAMM 2007 without a barrage of questions about M5v2 stealing the thunder of any new products they may have slated for promotion at that time.

At the very least, we will have some word from NAMM attendees about "vibe" from MOTU about all of this. Hopefully, we will have some definitive word from MOTU itself. Even if MOTU skirts the issue, it will speak volumes about the fate of M5. I just can't imagine a UB and/or v2 update surviving a third year of being AWOL.

If your work and deadlines depend on it having a pro sampler on an Intel-Mac, I would then say not to wait any longer-- and to move forward with your work by getting K2 and getting your library ported over. There's no sense in letting software delays hold you back. If there is income to be made now, then K2 will pay for itself in short order.

I'm still on PPC right now, so I'm only creating new sounds for M5 and am not bothering to port all of my libraries into M5 format just yet. But Intel users are truly in a more precarious position with this.

If you can hang out until January announcements, then wait. If you are losing money, workflow, and productivity-- make the jump now.

[ManOtunes]

and i'm excited. it's able to read all the Machfive presets, banks, etc, and after reading about it's many astounding features, it appears like it's just better.

Not vaporware. they said it would be released a few months ago. they're human, and it was late, but now here it is, ready to roll on an intel.

I'm not here to diss m5. it had a good run for me, but life is too short. you could be waiting for m5 for 2 years, and suddenly get hit by a bus. if i get hit, i want to have some great songs done first.

so, i guess this is good bye. i highly recommend that you all don't wait too much longer. there's music to be made.

3GHZ Mac Pro / RME 400 / Logic / Kontakt 2.1

[Frodo]

Not vaporware. they said it would be released a few months ago. they're human, and it was late, but now here it is, ready to roll on an intel...

Problem is they've said many things that have not transpired. I still only see 1.2.3 on their download site. Have you seen an Intel-ready version?

I'm not here to diss m5. it had a good run for me, but life is too short. you could be waiting for m5 for 2 years, and suddenly get hit by a bus. if i get hit, i want to have some great songs done first.

Hit by a bus!! LOL!! Heaven forbid. So far, the only bus that threatens my situation is the FW bus....

so, i guess this is good bye. i highly recommend that you all don't wait too much longer. there's music to be made.

And another one bites the dust! Music indeed must come first

[thracks]

I will be attending NAMM. I'd be real surprised if there is no mention of Mach 5 v.2. I know if they don't give some sort of official statement there will be a barrage of questions from the likes of me (very polite questions mind you). I was there last year, and when I asked about version 2 they said "soon" I could kinda tell it was out of their hands, and that they were almost embarrassed. We'll see..... stay tuned.

[billf]

I will be attending NAMM. I'd be real surprised if there is no mention of Mach 5 v.2. I know if they don't give some sort of official statement there will be a barrage of questions from the likes of me (very polite questions mind you). I was there last year, and when I asked about version 2 they said "soon" I could kinda tell it was out of their hands, and that they were almost embarrassed. We'll see..... stay tuned.

At this point, I am not holding my breath on M5v2. I will believe when, and if, I see it.

[realflo]

Hello everybody,

Has anybody already used kontakt 2.2 with an intel mac to read his/hers mach five banks ? Does everything show up the same way ( stuff like banks and presets etc...) ?
Also what happens on your projects where u had a mach 5 configuration saved, do the same presets automatically show up ?

I am about to switch and those are the only questions that remain.
Let it be said i am kinda sorry i have to switch as mach v has been a great musical compagnon 4 quit a while now... I'll surely miss it !

Any help is greatly appreciated-

Flo-

[ManOtunes]

yo flo,

i've already ordered mine. it won't arrive for another
2 weeks, but i have the exact same concerns. i have
hundreds of machfive presets, so i emailed kontakt and asked very specifically if every single aspect of my machfive presets would show up in kontakt. he assured me that it loads all m5 data. i have the email as evidence if it turns out not to be true. considering the rave reviews, i'd just go for it. below is from the email they sent me....

"Kontakt 2 would be able to load the Machfive samples along with the proper mapping and loop functions."

good enough for me. also, if you happen to be in school or know someone who is, get the academic version. it's roughly half the price. Again, here's what NI said about it.....
"There actually isn't a difference in the software between the Retail and Academic versions. By purchasing Kontakt 2 Academic you would be entitled to the free updates online as well as being able to upgrade. Once you upgrade it, the software will actually end up being a full retail version since there are not academic specific upgrades."

the retailer simply required me to email a scan of my girlfriend's student id. saved $200. (heheh)

[iMAS]

the retailer simply required me to email a scan of my girlfriend's student id. saved $200. (heheh)

Hmmm, I know a few college students. But do they have to be in a music school ?

Regarding K2, if Motu is still like "Mach what...huh...V2...uh" come Namm 07, I'll bite.

[realflo]

Thanks manotunes, i guess i'lll give MOTU one more week or so but i doubt anything is gonna happen...

Thxs also for the tip regarding the student upgrade although i should benefit from a cross grade based on what i saw on their website.

By the way i e-mailed motu about the subject and here's what i got :

¨Thank you for writing.
MachFive version 2 is currently under development and will be a universal binary (ie, both PowerPC and Intel compatible) upon its release.
No release date has been set for this upgrade, but it will be announced via our website as soon as it is available.¨

Let's keep our fingers crossed...

[Frodo]

"under development"

Hmmm...

de-vél-op-ment (n.)

1. The act of developing.
2. The state of being developed.
3. A significant event, occurrence, or change.
4. A group of dwellings built by the same contractor.
5. Determination of the best techniques for applying a new device or process to production of goods or services.
6. Music
--a. Elaboration of a theme with rhythmic and harmonic variations.
--b. The central section of a movement in sonata form, in which the theme is elaborated and explored.
7. a rock.

[iMAS]

"under development"

Hmmm...

de-vél-op-ment (n.)

7. a rock. [/i]

#7 is the appropriate one to use in this context.

[KarlSutton]

So did anyone get K2 yet? I'm curious about a couple of things; does it require iLok (or similar) and is it importing the Mach5 sounds?

[ManOtunes]

The student simply needs to be enrolled in any school.
I'm sure college is preferable. To be safe, i had my girlfriend buy it with her credit card and then i just paid her back.

I should be finally receiving it tomorrow. (ahhhhhhhh, i've
been waiting like 5 months to use my samples)

i'll drop by to tell you all how well the machfive presets translate.

[bezzy]

Im really digging Cubase 4 if Motu does not release M5 v2 before Halion 3 UB, it will seriously suck,especially since stienberg has to do both platforms for all thier software. Come on Motu wake up and quit smoking from a Meth bong and release v2.