Built in VI's Not Loading in DP5

MELTHEDOG13 · Post by **MELTHEDOG13** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:52 pm

Anyone know why the built-in MOTU virtual instrument plugin's that come with DP5 arent loading up for me anymore...? I'm an a G5 Intel Mac and all was good last week. The only instrument available to me under the add tracks-instrument tracks window is the Apple DLS Music Device. The VI's are in my plugin's folder, but they dont load up with DP. Anyone know how to get them back...?

ozheri · Post by **ozheri** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:19 pm

this happened to me also, they appeared after i reinstalled dp5....hope it works for ya..

MELTHEDOG13 · Post by **MELTHEDOG13** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:47 pm

Thanks for the reply. Did you do an uninstall first...? or manually delete the existing DP folders...?

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:16 pm

Try going to:

Mac HD> Library> Audio> Plugins> MAS

Trash all of your MAS VI bundles, then reinstall.

Also, trash DP preferences, too (and empty trash).

Restart the computer before opening DP.

Mr_Clifford · Post by **Mr_Clifford** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:36 am

Frodo wrote:Try going to:

Mac HD> Library> Audio> Plugins> MAS

Trash all of your MAS VI bundles, then reinstall.

Also, trash DP preferences, too (and empty trash).

Restart the computer before opening DP.

I just followed those instructions exactly, and still no DP VI's except for Polysynth come up on my MacBook Pro. They've definitely been put in the MAS folder by the 5.1 installer, but DP still isn't seeing them. BFD is coming up fine. Weird! Luckily the laptop isn't my main workstation and they come up fine on the G4, so it's more puzzling than annoying.

MELTHEDOG13 · Post by **MELTHEDOG13** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:49 pm

The reinstall worked...Many thanks for the help !!

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:24 pm

Mr_Clifford wrote:
Frodo wrote:Try going to:

Mac HD> Library> Audio> Plugins> MAS

Trash all of your MAS VI bundles, then reinstall.

Also, trash DP preferences, too (and empty trash).

Restart the computer before opening DP.
I just followed those instructions exactly, and still no DP VI's except for Polysynth come up on my MacBook Pro. They've definitely been put in the MAS folder by the 5.1 installer, but DP still isn't seeing them. BFD is coming up fine. Weird! Luckily the laptop isn't my main workstation and they come up fine on the G4, so it's more puzzling than annoying.

Ah, Mister C! Sorry to hear this. Hmm.

The only thing I could suggest would be to use the Finder to search for all files containing the names of all the missing plugins. This will include Presets, '.component' files, '.bundle' files, 'data.bundle' files, '.patches' files., and also any '.preferences' files associated with the plugins.

I know it's a pain, but try again-- trash all of those files, plus DPs preferences. Empty the trash, and don't "restart"! Shut the computer all the way down to flush any wayward UNIX references to older files.

Reboot the computer.

Repair permissions, and maybe even run a disk utility.

Reinstall DP-- and I don't recall at the moment, but you may even get away with doing a custom install of just the VIs. Otherwise an easy install should refresh the data.

What version of DP is on your install disk? If you installed 5.0 or 5.01 and then installed 5.1 on top of it, I know that 5.1 doesn't replace all the files that it should-- at least it didn't a couple of months ago. If this is the case, then manually removing the older files and reinstalling *should* take care of the problem as well as refreshing corrupt reference files it did for MELTHEDOG13.

But if you never saw all the new VIs at all there may be a problem with your install disk, as has been the case.

I would try this anyway in addition to manually trashing the files mentioned above:

Find the DP application icon (as opposed to the alias). Trash all aliases, btw.

Then, control+click the DP app icon and select "Show Package Contents". Trash everything there, empty trash.

Use your original DP5.x disc to uninstall as a double precaution. Shut down-- and reboot!

Then reinstall from the disc first, then upgrade to 5.1 if necessary. Recreate any aliases to the new install.

It would be both puzzling and annoying for me-- and may yet be so if all I've suggested still doesn't work for you!

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Mr_Clifford · Post by **Mr_Clifford** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:12 am

Thanks Frodo,

I've copied your advice into a text file so that some time I can refer to it when I get around to re-installing again.

I find it a bit weird that you have to install the non-UB DP5 first then run the DP5.1 upgrade patch to get it to UB, sounds like problems waiting to happen.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:40 am

Mr_Clifford wrote:I find it a bit weird that you have to install the non-UB DP5 first then run the DP5.1 upgrade patch to get it to UB, sounds like problems waiting to happen.

That's why I first asked what version of DP was on your CD-ROM. If it's new enough to be 5.1 already, then you're good to go.

But if it's the downloadable update, then it will only have certain update files and not all of the VIs-- unless they by necessity had to be included in the UB update. I've not even looked at the install log for 5.1-- maybe I should...