Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
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- waterstrum
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Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
Hope this isn't a dumb question.
I'm editing an acoustic guitar performance that was recorded on three tracks. (two mics and a direct)
There are a couple of spots where I want to stretch the duration a little bit and a couple that I want to shorten.
I split all three tracks at the desired location and select all three.
When I grab the little stretch handle at the upper right, it only works on one track.
If I do them one at a time, I end up with phasing problems because of the imprecision.
Is there a way to stretch all three simultaneously with precise alignment?
Maybe a new feature in DP10 that I haven't found yet?
Thanks!
I'm editing an acoustic guitar performance that was recorded on three tracks. (two mics and a direct)
There are a couple of spots where I want to stretch the duration a little bit and a couple that I want to shorten.
I split all three tracks at the desired location and select all three.
When I grab the little stretch handle at the upper right, it only works on one track.
If I do them one at a time, I end up with phasing problems because of the imprecision.
Is there a way to stretch all three simultaneously with precise alignment?
Maybe a new feature in DP10 that I haven't found yet?
Thanks!
All is well
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
Try bouncing them into one soundbite and stretching that file?
- Drumwizard
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
Maybe using of changing tempo of Conductor Track is a better way.
Last edited by Drumwizard on Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
Scale Time from the Region menu.
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
i've just been reporting a bug about this...when i use time scaling, DP is no longer respecting the beginning point i have set (in single or multiple tracks, in audio and MIDI). so for example, i cut a bit off the beginning of a note and move it earlier to the exact point i want it to hit, intending to stretch the end of the segment out and crossfade it into the leftover original note. i set the time scale amount, specifying the beginning of the bite to be unchanged, so only the end should move when the bite grows. when i time scale it the new soundbite is (i think) correctly scaled, but the beginning has jumped forward and the end backward, as if it stretched out bth ways from the middle or something.
here are links to videos of the problem:
https://mega.nz/#!aBt2EQhQ!ddTRQlfiGddV ... XGkSKZyoOs
https://mega.nz/#!2JEBQQQC!2q4bz-0ACEjN ... 7JYls3Vr-s
here are links to videos of the problem:
https://mega.nz/#!aBt2EQhQ!ddTRQlfiGddV ... XGkSKZyoOs
https://mega.nz/#!2JEBQQQC!2q4bz-0ACEjN ... 7JYls3Vr-s
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- waterstrum
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
Many thanks for all of your kind replies.
First, MLC, geeze, 25,452 posts?
I think you should get an award.
You've given so much help and knowledge.
Thanks!
I tried bouncing the three tracks, but realized that I would lose the independent control of each track for EQ, effects and such.
Drumwizard... Thanks!
The conductor track won't work in this case, because the acoustic guitar is in a full arrangement and I don't want the other tracks to change timing.
magicd... Thanks for the suggestion. That should have worked, but I tried it and the 3 tracks were way out of sync.
stringtheory.... Thanks for your input. I just read your post and maybe that explains the result. I selected precise coincident regions on all three tracks and tried Scale Time. The result was very misaligned tracks.
All of that said, I was seeking a graphic solution to this problem.
I was hoping to be able to select a region on the three tracks and use the little stretch handle to move all three.
It works great for one track at a time and I use it often.
First, MLC, geeze, 25,452 posts?
I think you should get an award.
You've given so much help and knowledge.
Thanks!
I tried bouncing the three tracks, but realized that I would lose the independent control of each track for EQ, effects and such.
Drumwizard... Thanks!
The conductor track won't work in this case, because the acoustic guitar is in a full arrangement and I don't want the other tracks to change timing.
magicd... Thanks for the suggestion. That should have worked, but I tried it and the 3 tracks were way out of sync.
stringtheory.... Thanks for your input. I just read your post and maybe that explains the result. I selected precise coincident regions on all three tracks and tried Scale Time. The result was very misaligned tracks.
All of that said, I was seeking a graphic solution to this problem.
I was hoping to be able to select a region on the three tracks and use the little stretch handle to move all three.
It works great for one track at a time and I use it often.
All is well
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
the time scaling command seems totally out of whack to me, the data entry boxes are responding in strange and unpredictable ways.
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
And as you can see not all useful info. Lol.waterstrum wrote:Many thanks for all of your kind replies.
First, MLC, geeze, 25,452 posts?
I think you should get an award.
You've given so much help and knowledge.
Thanks!
I tried bouncing the three tracks, but realized that I would lose the independent control of each track for EQ, effects and such.
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
I agree, it’s completely broken.stringtheory wrote:the time scaling command seems totally out of whack to me, the data entry boxes are responding in strange and unpredictable ways.
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:And as you can see not all useful info. Lol.waterstrum wrote:Many thanks for all of your kind replies.
First, MLC, geeze, 25,452 posts?
I think you should get an award.
You've given so much help and knowledge.
Thanks!
I tried bouncing the three tracks, but realized that I would lose the independent control of each track for EQ, effects and such.
.
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- waterstrum
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
Me rolling/laughing too!
I gotta give it up for MLC.
Thanks!
Anybody have a solution to the question?
I gotta give it up for MLC.
Thanks!
Anybody have a solution to the question?
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- waterstrum
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
Oops...
Should have asked, "Does anyone have a solution to this problem or an answer to the original question?".
Trivial minutia, but I'm working my way up to 25,000 posts.
Should have asked, "Does anyone have a solution to this problem or an answer to the original question?".
Trivial minutia, but I'm working my way up to 25,000 posts.
All is well
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
If MagicD’s answer isn’t definitive I don’t know what is.
- waterstrum
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Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
Thanks MLC.
Magicd's answer is definitive and would be great if the Time Scaling function worked.
Still not the simple graphic solution I'm seeking, but would be a fine workaround if it worked.
As I mentioned before, the TS function is not working as advertised.
I split the three tracks, selected them and the precise time values.
Performed myriad variations of the TS function and the three tracks are always way out of sync.
I think I'll go back to adjusting each one individually and trying to make it line up.
Done it for years, but was hoping for a better way with DP10 and the new stuff.
Working my way to 25,000 posts...
Magicd's answer is definitive and would be great if the Time Scaling function worked.
Still not the simple graphic solution I'm seeking, but would be a fine workaround if it worked.
As I mentioned before, the TS function is not working as advertised.
I split the three tracks, selected them and the precise time values.
Performed myriad variations of the TS function and the three tracks are always way out of sync.
I think I'll go back to adjusting each one individually and trying to make it line up.
Done it for years, but was hoping for a better way with DP10 and the new stuff.
Working my way to 25,000 posts...
All is well
Re: Time stretching multiple soundbites simultaneously
Interesting; no answer here, still on 8.07. I thought 10 was supposed to fix this problem according to all the promo info.
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Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders
The Martha Bassett Show broadcast mixer
Tape Op issue 73
DP 11.31
Studio M1 Max OS12.7.3
MOTU 16A and Monitor 8
M1 Pro MBP for remotes and editing