DP11 is here!

[toodamnhip]

Sorry, but I also must ask this...

Have the unwanted damned automation ramps issues and bugs been fixed when pasting or snipping in DP 11? Has anyone tried it?

That will probaly determine if I stayin DP9.5 or I upgrade to 11...

Yes! for the most part.
There are occasional pasting methods I don't recall that can still make goofy ramps, but 95% of the time, the problem is handled. Enough so that I cut and paste now without thinking much about it. If a mix gets long and large, I will occasionally check under the hood and find a few ramps, but not many.
This DP design error was fixed in DP 10. something.
MOTO calls this feature "Interpolate". It is located as follows: Setup/Event Chasing- bottom of the window you will see a check box to turn it on and off. I was very very very very very happy to see this and applaud MOTU for it! Thank you.

[mikehalloran]

anyone know if the boxed version, when it becomes available, will include a printed manual?

I upgraded to DP11 today (download) and called them to ask the same question.

They told me that the only printed manual that would become available would be a 200-page "How to get set up and started sort of manual". It will be available to those wanting it at no charge other than the cost of the shipping to you.

There will not be a 900-page reference printed manual (which is what I called hoping to be able to buy as a separate item). But I suppose all of that info is available under the reference tab under "Help" at the top of the page.

Just like DP 9 and DP 10.

[stubbsonic]

Ibuilt the most extravagant console maybe 15+ years ago for the Roland VS880. I had the whole thing taped, even effects automated. Roland even came to my studio to see it. It was quite an ordeal to make it. Haven't used consoles since. But by distant recollection, it would have to be made for each new track or CC data. In other words, I believe it would either have to be built an extraordinary amount of times. Its been awhile. But no matter, this is far too difficult even though it is a fantastic under the hood feature for DP. But I am looking for something a bit more elegant than a console approach. Something dedicated and quick to access,,,like a fader.

Yea, that makes sense. It seems like there's been a general shift from external MIDI-- so if VI's publish parameters for automation-- that's handled. But if the corresponding CC's required to control external MIDI equipment, or plugins requiring MIDI control (as opposed to AU/VST automation) it must be handled "the hard way". It would be cool if down in the bottom panel of the MIDI editor, you could select a CC type, and then enable a fader for that type-- a preference could let you choose an event density-- or perhaps the grid snap could be used in that way- so you could record CC's with the fader based on the grid setting or if grid is off, then some reasonable density that won't choke the MIDI stream.

[mhschmieder]

Yep, like I said, thank goodness it's a PDF! Nothing worse than clicking on "manual", "?", or "Help" in a plug-in, and it launching your default browser in order to display an HTML-only "manual" or a video-only "manual". Goodbye session! Now a half hour is lost bootstrapping the computer back into adequate resources available to DP. Hope you weren't doing anything important and creative, especially with a client! PDF's open in standalone mode.

[syntonica]

Yep, like I said, thank goodness it's a PDF! Nothing worse than clicking on "manual", "?", or "Help" in a plug-in, and it launching your default browser in order to display an HTML-only "manual" or a video-only "manual". Goodbye session! Now a half hour is lost bootstrapping the computer back into adequate resources available to DP. Hope you weren't doing anything important and creative, especially with a client! PDF's open in standalone mode.

I keep all of my manuals on an old iPad Mini 2 so I can read the them while fiddling with whichever device or program I'm using.

The search function isn't quite the best, but it's better than relying on the index at the back and an iPad is quite a bit lighter than a 1,000 page manual. I can hold it with one hand.

Also, if you end up with a dreaded HTML manual, all on one page, you can "print" it as a PDF for better reading and searching.

[ghobish]

So I downloaded DP 11 and opened a project that I had been working on to try the bounce to disk thing.... of course as I expected, the bug that causes the BTD to pause, then restart happened again... only once during the BTD but still annoying.

I didn't realize that I wasn't the only one with this problem. Maddening. On a tricked out 12-core 3.3ghz MP 2010 5,1 w/ 80GB RAM and Mojave, all SSD work drives. This should not be an issue!

[ghobish]

Will DP11 finally properly import OMF or AAF files exported from Premiere?

[mhschmieder]

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The reported input gain problem was at the interface level, not DP11 related.

A weird mode that it got into accidentally.

[waterstrum]

FWIW,
I'm getting better performance from my old cheesegrater on DP11.
A heavy session no longer busts the Audio Performance with clicks and pops.
DP11 is much better and I'm even going to 64 buffer for recording VIs.
They must have done something about the efficiency.
I think I can keep this old box for a year or two.

That said, I'm bound for AS when it comes up to MacPro form.

[Killahurts]

So I downloaded DP 11 and opened a project that I had been working on to try the bounce to disk thing.... of course as I expected, the bug that causes the BTD to pause, then restart happened again... only once during the BTD but still annoying.

I didn't realize that I wasn't the only one with this problem. Maddening. On a tricked out 12-core 3.3ghz MP 2010 5,1 w/ 80GB RAM and Mojave, all SSD work drives. This should not be an issue!

It is to those of us that have tricked-out, super powerful machines and fast hard drives, that this problem happens.

AFAIK, MOTU has not acknowledged the issue, so I'm not surprised there is no fix.

[HCMarkus]

FWIW,
I'm getting better performance from my old cheesegrater on DP11.
A heavy session no longer busts the Audio Performance with clicks and pops.
DP11 is much better and I'm even going to 64 buffer for recording VIs.
They must have done something about the efficiency.
I think I can keep this old box for a year or two.

That said, I'm bound for AS when it comes up to MacPro form.

Thanks for the report. Methinks I'm gonna' have to push the "buy" button sooner than I expected.

And +1 on Apple Silicon. Looks like the current gen is pretty much on a par with the 12 Core 5,1. Next gen AS, regardless of form-factor, may be the hot ticket.

[cuttime]

FWIW,
I'm getting better performance from my old cheesegrater on DP11.
A heavy session no longer busts the Audio Performance with clicks and pops.
DP11 is much better and I'm even going to 64 buffer for recording VIs.
They must have done something about the efficiency.
I think I can keep this old box for a year or two.

That said, I'm bound for AS when it comes up to MacPro form.

Thanks for the report. Methinks I'm gonna' have to push the "buy" button sooner than I expected.

And +1 on Apple Silicon. Looks like the current gen is pretty much on a par with the 12 Core 5,1. Next gen AS, regardless of form-factor, may be the hot ticket.

Same here. I can now run a live instance of a SWAM string at 32 when it blew up at 128 on DP 10.

[mhschmieder]

My apologies if this bug has already been reported, but I'm pretty time-slammed while preparing for the 3200 mile drive east to see my ailing dad.

I get repeatable crashes when trying to print a specific MIDI part from the QuickScribe window. The circumstances are unique and rare (for me):

In this one song, I have a bass pedal with grace note, that repeats for more than 40 measures during a breakdown section and instrumental solos.

There's a new(?) feature in DP11 that not only consolidates rests, but also consolidates repeated patterns.

I have to turn off "Show Arranged Score" to stop the crash. Even unconsolidating rests wasn't enough; nor were the usual tricks to flush any caching.

Not sure if we can attach a MIDI file to a topic in this new forum engine? I could extract that one part to post here, if so.

[midilance]

All is well so far on OS 11.4.

[JSmith1234567]

FWIW,
I'm getting better performance from my old cheesegrater on DP11.
A heavy session no longer busts the Audio Performance with clicks and pops.
DP11 is much better and I'm even going to 64 buffer for recording VIs.
They must have done something about the efficiency.
I think I can keep this old box for a year or two.

That said, I'm bound for AS when it comes up to MacPro form.

Hey thanks for that report!

That is terrific news.

Can I ask if you did a whole clean install or just update, and what OSX are you using? Thanks!