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Free Versions of Professional DAW
I have been looking at the 'free' versions of leading DAW lately. I owned a PT 11 and have been working in it for my video production requirement though I am only a 'self learned engineer'. However, I could produce outstanding sound track part with the competition or even better. Studio One especially version 3 is a beautiful piece of software. It is light weight compared to many other competitor product. I like it a lot and in some areas it excels it competitors. Even though I would want to continue keeping Studio One as one of my DAWs, I miss few things which makes me think if I have to bring in S1 as my primary DAW. I am comparing Pro Toots | First and Studio One 3 Prime. Below are the major areas making me think.
Included Instruments and Plugins
Mixing Windows
I have recorded guitar and vocals using a dynamic mic - SM58 and condenser Rode NT1A. Both Pro Tools First and Studio One 3 Prime sounded equally good to my ears. However when I started adding effects, somehow S1 lacked something compared to PT First prima facie. Also when more tracks are added, S1 Prime seem to be bit behind in placing the tracks in its right place compared to PT First.
When it comes to the instruments, PT First has the same Xpand! available which is found in fully paid versions. The quality of instruments and the possibility of tweaking and customizing PT F and Xpand1 is far ahead of S1 Prime and Presence. Individually the many of the instruments sound good but to my ears, comparatively they lag behind the cutting edge pristine quality of Xpand!.
Another thing I struggle is the mixer section compared to PT. Many a times I am lost compared to the ease, clarify flexibility of the mixer section found in PT F. One window concept is good and compact especially when you have limitation of display span. This is my opinion based on the kind of work I do. However, S1 3 Prime, even though it comes free, is good enough for beginners to go forward with their work and later upgrade to S1 pro versions.
When comparing S1 3 Prime and PT F, one things needs to be seriously looked at, in my opinion. Would people prefer S1 3 Prime if PT First remove the restriction on maximum 3 projects? Though I have only pointed out few thing which put S1 ahead of competition, I have no doubt that it is a super piece of software with great functionality, solid performance with minimum to no headaches in small setups like I have.
I am new to Digital Performer. I have several reason why I can use one of the above DAW for my requirement as it is fairly small. Does DP has anything like Pro Tools First or Studio One 3 Prime can offer>
Included Instruments and Plugins
Mixing Windows
I have recorded guitar and vocals using a dynamic mic - SM58 and condenser Rode NT1A. Both Pro Tools First and Studio One 3 Prime sounded equally good to my ears. However when I started adding effects, somehow S1 lacked something compared to PT First prima facie. Also when more tracks are added, S1 Prime seem to be bit behind in placing the tracks in its right place compared to PT First.
When it comes to the instruments, PT First has the same Xpand! available which is found in fully paid versions. The quality of instruments and the possibility of tweaking and customizing PT F and Xpand1 is far ahead of S1 Prime and Presence. Individually the many of the instruments sound good but to my ears, comparatively they lag behind the cutting edge pristine quality of Xpand!.
Another thing I struggle is the mixer section compared to PT. Many a times I am lost compared to the ease, clarify flexibility of the mixer section found in PT F. One window concept is good and compact especially when you have limitation of display span. This is my opinion based on the kind of work I do. However, S1 3 Prime, even though it comes free, is good enough for beginners to go forward with their work and later upgrade to S1 pro versions.
When comparing S1 3 Prime and PT F, one things needs to be seriously looked at, in my opinion. Would people prefer S1 3 Prime if PT First remove the restriction on maximum 3 projects? Though I have only pointed out few thing which put S1 ahead of competition, I have no doubt that it is a super piece of software with great functionality, solid performance with minimum to no headaches in small setups like I have.
I am new to Digital Performer. I have several reason why I can use one of the above DAW for my requirement as it is fairly small. Does DP has anything like Pro Tools First or Studio One 3 Prime can offer>
Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
Check out http://motu.com/products/software/audiodeskRecoCham wrote:I have been looking at the 'free' versions of leading DAW lately. I owned a PT 11 and have been working in it for my video production requirement though I am only a 'self learned engineer'. However, I could produce outstanding sound track part with the competition or even better. Studio One especially version 3 is a beautiful piece of software. It is light weight compared to many other competitor product. I like it a lot and in some areas it excels it competitors. Even though I would want to continue keeping Studio One as one of my DAWs, I miss few things which makes me think if I have to bring in S1 as my primary DAW. I am comparing Pro Toots | First and Studio One 3 Prime. Below are the major areas making me think.
Included Instruments and Plugins
Mixing Windows
I have recorded guitar and vocals using a dynamic mic - SM58 and condenser Rode NT1A. Both Pro Tools First and Studio One 3 Prime sounded equally good to my ears. However when I started adding effects, somehow S1 lacked something compared to PT First prima facie. Also when more tracks are added, S1 Prime seem to be bit behind in placing the tracks in its right place compared to PT First.
When it comes to the instruments, PT First has the same Xpand! available which is found in fully paid versions. The quality of instruments and the possibility of tweaking and customizing PT F and Xpand1 is far ahead of S1 Prime and Presence. Individually the many of the instruments sound good but to my ears, comparatively they lag behind the cutting edge pristine quality of Xpand!.
Another thing I struggle is the mixer section compared to PT. Many a times I am lost compared to the ease, clarify flexibility of the mixer section found in PT F. One window concept is good and compact especially when you have limitation of display span. This is my opinion based on the kind of work I do. However, S1 3 Prime, even though it comes free, is good enough for beginners to go forward with their work and later upgrade to S1 pro versions.
When comparing S1 3 Prime and PT F, one things needs to be seriously looked at, in my opinion. Would people prefer S1 3 Prime if PT First remove the restriction on maximum 3 projects? Though I have only pointed out few thing which put S1 ahead of competition, I have no doubt that it is a super piece of software with great functionality, solid performance with minimum to no headaches in small setups like I have.
I am new to Digital Performer. I have several reason why I can use one of the above DAW for my requirement as it is fairly small. Does DP has anything like Pro Tools First or Studio One 3 Prime can offer>
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- mikehalloran
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Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
AudioDesk is free. It does not have the MIDI functionality of DP.
It also requires that you own a MOTU interface.
It also requires that you own a MOTU interface.
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Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
... or download the free DP9 trial http://motu.com/downloadcleamon wrote:Check out http://motu.com/products/software/audiodesk
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Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
MOTU Digital Performer 9 - Competitive Upgrade
Discover a better way to create music with MOTU's Digital Performer 9 DAW software!
To qualify for this reduced price crossgrade, you must be able to provide proof-of-registration for one of the following products:
Acid
AudioDesk*
Audition
Cakewalk
Cubase
Live
Logic
Nuendo
Pro Tools
Reason
SONAR
SoundForge
Soundtrack Pro
Studio One
Tracktion
Vegas
Vision
*The free version of AudioDesk does not have a serial number but the copy bundled with any MOTU hardware interface does.
You may purchase DP from MOTU or your favorite reseller.
If you purchase from a reseller, the package will include an Activation Code sticker in the Quick Start Guide but no serial number. Go online to create a User Account and activate. Use dashes instead of minus signs or the server won't recognize the code.
The serial number is required for tech support and upgrades. To get a serial number, you must submit proof of a qualifying product—after MOTU verifies this, a serial number will be added to your account. The serial number does not change with the version—mine is the same as it was for DP 2.
Discover a better way to create music with MOTU's Digital Performer 9 DAW software!
To qualify for this reduced price crossgrade, you must be able to provide proof-of-registration for one of the following products:
Acid
AudioDesk*
Audition
Cakewalk
Cubase
Live
Logic
Nuendo
Pro Tools
Reason
SONAR
SoundForge
Soundtrack Pro
Studio One
Tracktion
Vegas
Vision
*The free version of AudioDesk does not have a serial number but the copy bundled with any MOTU hardware interface does.
You may purchase DP from MOTU or your favorite reseller.
If you purchase from a reseller, the package will include an Activation Code sticker in the Quick Start Guide but no serial number. Go online to create a User Account and activate. Use dashes instead of minus signs or the server won't recognize the code.
The serial number is required for tech support and upgrades. To get a serial number, you must submit proof of a qualifying product—after MOTU verifies this, a serial number will be added to your account. The serial number does not change with the version—mine is the same as it was for DP 2.
DP 11.31; 828mkII FW, micro lite, M4, MTP/AV USB Firmware 2.0.1
2023 Mac Studio M2 8TB, 192GB RAM, OS Sonoma 14.5 b4, USB4 8TB external, M-Audio AIR 192|14, Mackie ProFxv3 6/10/12; 2012 MBPs Catalina, Mojave
IK-NI-Izotope-PSP-Garritan-Antares, LogicPro X, Finale 27.4, Dorico 5.2, Notion 6, Overture 5, TwistedWave, DSP-Q 5, SmartScore64 Pro, Toast 20 Pro
2023 Mac Studio M2 8TB, 192GB RAM, OS Sonoma 14.5 b4, USB4 8TB external, M-Audio AIR 192|14, Mackie ProFxv3 6/10/12; 2012 MBPs Catalina, Mojave
IK-NI-Izotope-PSP-Garritan-Antares, LogicPro X, Finale 27.4, Dorico 5.2, Notion 6, Overture 5, TwistedWave, DSP-Q 5, SmartScore64 Pro, Toast 20 Pro
Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
Thanks for the information. Will I be able to use a trial version of Digital Performer without a Motu hardware?mikehalloran wrote:AudioDesk is free. It does not have the MIDI functionality of DP.
It also requires that you own a MOTU interface.
Thanks
Jp
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Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
Of course, DP will work fine with any audio interface.
But Motu interfaces will add some nice monitoring-while-tracking features within DP.
edit - Hey what the heck ! This is my 2000th post on this great board ! -
But Motu interfaces will add some nice monitoring-while-tracking features within DP.
edit - Hey what the heck ! This is my 2000th post on this great board ! -
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DP11.31, OS12.7.5, MacBookPro-i7-3.1Ghz-16GoRam-1ToSSD
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum & Michelangelo, LX480, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Studiologic VMK, ControlPad
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mics, mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...
Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
Thanks for all the reply. I will try the free version of DP9. I have also heard a lot from my audio engineer friend about motu hardware as well.
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Congrats, Daniel!!
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Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
Since AudioDesk is bundled with MOTU interfaces, some resellers will sell DP at the crossgrade price when you purchase the hardware. Sweetwater, a sponsor of this board, is one of them.RecoCham wrote:Thanks for all the reply. I will try the free version of DP9. I have also heard a lot from my audio engineer friend about motu hardware as well.
If you have questions about the interfaces, best to find a thread discussing the one that interests you or start a new one.
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Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
I got the crossgrade price by having Cubase. PT 11 and Studio One might qualify too.
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Re: Free Versions of Professional DAW
I posted the list earlier in this thread.
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