7.1, a different animal.

[KEVORKIAN]

Do any of you that are having issues with crashing have file sharing enabled on your macs?

If so, can you try disabling File Sharing in System Prefs and also deleting any users listed under "users" in the Sharing panel. Then see if there is any sort of improvement...

[Phil O]

Do any of you that are having issues with crashing have file sharing enabled on your macs?

File sharing turned off on my Mac.

Phil

[daniel.sneed]

Sorry to be perhaps irrelevant here, Phil : Of course you've been thru all basic maintenance steps such as :

- DiskWarrior
- HD defrag
- hardware test
- cache cleanings, and so on, with OnyX
- available memory and CPU survey, thru Activity Monitor
- Checking any unwanted PPC versus Intel app release, and reverse, in Activity Monitor (the result sometimes mismatches Finder file-info! Yes, sometimes it does!)
- plugins disabling (and downsizing among them, related to your crashes)

And in the end... deep breath and crossing fingers may help finding the culprit.

[Phil O]

Good advice, Dan. I don't have Disk Warior, but I've been through everything else in your list, except turning off plugs. I am, at this point, highly suspicious that many of the problems people are having may be third party related, but I haven't had time to play with this yet. It is certainly on my to-do list. That's a long process, as crashes are not frequent. Some folks are seeing a lot, and it's those folks who would have better luck playing the plug-in shuffle game. Me? I'm seeing 1 crash every couple of days in 7.1, but to date, zero crashes in 7.02. I'm using them both depending on what work I'm doing. Love the stability of 7.02, but some of the new stuff in 7.1 has me hooked.

Thanks,
Phil

[Tobor]

Hi guys,

Now I'm getting crashes in 7.02. I thought I might be taxing my system with Trilian, but was working on a project today that did not have Trilian in it. I opened the project in 6.02 and it played back fine as always (Two audio tracks, Omnisphere, Reason piano, external MIDI bass, and Drumcore 3). I copied the project to another folder and opened in 7.02. Drumcore was a little late to respond but otherwise playback was fine. After a couple of minutes I hit rewind (to beginning) while playing back and DP 7.02 'unexpectedly quit'.

Out of the voluminous crash log I edited out that which I thought might be relevant, hopefully this might make sense to someone:

Date/Time: 2010-02-02 11:45:17.889 -0700
OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S2167)
Report Version: 4

Command: Digital Performer
Path: /Applications/Digital Performer 7.02.app/Contents/MacOS/Digital Performer
Parent: WindowServer [61]

Version: 7.02 (7.02)

PID: 241
Thread: 12

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0xa2fffee0


Thread 12 Crashed:
0 <<00000000>> 0xffff0a58 __memcpy + 696 (cpu_capabilities.h:228)
1 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x020e66a8 0x20bc000 + 173736
2 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x020e657d 0x20bc000 + 173437
3 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x020e8dc4 0x20bc000 + 183748
4 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x020e9210 0x20bc000 + 184848
5 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x020e93ec 0x20bc000 + 185324
6 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x020e6125 0x20bc000 + 172325
7 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x02135145 0x20bc000 + 495941
8 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x02122a72 0x20bc000 + 420466
9 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x02124079 0x20bc000 + 426105
10 com.motu.MAS.framework 0x02124131 0x20bc000 + 426289
11 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d67 _pthread_body + 84


1 Thread 12 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
2 eax: 0xffff0a58 ebx: 0x020e8bf9 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0xfffffe00
3 edi: 0x1cde4a20 esi: 0xa30000e5 ebp: 0xb0821aa8 esp: 0xb0821aa0
4 ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010287 eip: 0xffff0a58 cs: 0x00000017
5 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
6
7 Binary Images Description:
8 0x1000 - 0xb11fff com.motu.DigitalPerformer 7.02 /Applications/Digital Performer 7.02.app/Contents/MacOS/Digital Performer
9 0xfa1000 - 0xfb9fff AllUtilities.dylib /Applications/Digital Performer 7.02.app/Contents/MacOS/AllUtilities.dylib
10 0xfcd000 - 0xfd7fff FileSystem.dylib /Applications/Digital Performer 7.02.app/Contents/MacOS/FileSystem.dylib
11 0xfe4000 - 0xfe5fff com.motu.MPO.framework MotuPublicObjects 3.1 (3.1) /Applications/Digital Performer 7.02.app/Contents/Frameworks/MotuPublicObjects.framework/Versions/A/MotuPublicObjects
12 0xfe9000 - 0xfedfff PerfError.dylib /Applications/Digital Performer 7.02.app/Contents/MacOS/PerfError.dylib
13 0xff4000 - 0xff6fff ResourceAccess.dylib /Applications/Digital Performer 7.02.app/Contents/MacOS/ResourceAccess.dylib

I copied this to my tech support ticket. It looks like something related to my system rather than a DP bug, but I'd like to solve it nonetheless!! Thanks for looking.....

Tobor

[Phil O]

Hey Tobor, let us know if MOTU comes up with anything. Thanks for the input!

Phil

[Tobor]

And thank you, Phil, for your efforts as well.

It's kind of ironic- 6.02 was a washout for many and for me it's worked very well, extremely solid. I just back-saved my 7.02 test files with Trilian in 6.02 format and they play great with no 'interruption of service'. At least I've got a place to go.

People have been saying that 7.02/7.1 was what 6.02 should have been, for me it's been the horse before the cart. You'd think 7 would be a slam dunk on a system that was hospitable to 6.

I can't help thinking that it's just some driver tweak or something and everything will be fine in 7. I like the new features. I know it'll work out. I watch and wait and test and crash and have learned a few things in the bargain.

I lost my Dad two weeks ago today. Everything is relative. Some have gone ahead, but the rest of us will be there soon.

Tobor

[bongo_x]

Sorry to hear about your dad.

I'm pretty convinced right now that it's drivers conflicting, MIDI drivers maybe? I wish I knew what I deleted that helped me. I just looked at my system logs for errors and then deleted the files that I didn't think I needed that were showing up there.

bb

[Tobor]

Drivers indeed!

Got word that there was a new firewire driver on the MOTU site, downloaded and installed, and wah-lah. I'm in!

Played back the two files that crashed on me earlier today (and yesterday, and the day before) in 7.1 and they played back fine- even enduring the torture 'rewind' test.

The boys at MOTU have obviously been working overtime, slaving away in their secret labs. THANKS MOTU!!

Worth staying up past my bedtime for.... hope 6.02 still works in the morning LOL

Thanks for the nice thoughts, bongo.....

Tobor

[wylie1]

The only issue I've been having with DP7.1 is if I leave a session idle/open for a few hours when I come back a click on DP its frozen solid.
No force quit or anything I have to go into the Unix prompt and kill the process.
Other than that its been fine.

[Tobor]

The only issue I've been having with DP7.1 is if I leave a session idle/open for a few hours when I come back a click on DP its frozen solid.
No force quit or anything I have to go into the Unix prompt and kill the process.
Other than that its been fine.

I just had the same experience with DP 6.02 last night. It was open for hours, wouldn't quit, and then the whole system had to be shut off manually.

That was before I installed the new FW driver, which hopefully will remedy that issue as well.

Tobor

[Crashdown]

Hello u All!

Just chiming in to report a strange behaviour in the Background processing window:

-In one project, it is repeating the background processing of 3 files over and over again...

Anyway It doesn't seem to bother the playback, edit, tracking...etc of the project. Seems more like a graphic bug...

So... Other than that, I must say that DP7.1 Hasn't had one single crash, working and mixing for 10 hours a day straight since yesterday!!!!!!!

And on the contrary: This project I'm mixing at 96KHz, was getting a lot of (Audible) CPU and Playback peaks on 7.02. This was simply gone after intalling DP7.1!! It's working like a charm handling the same (Heavy Plug-In Loaded!) projects!!!

I'm on DP7.1(no clean install or whatsoever, just trashed 7.01 and 7.02) OSX Tiger, Mac Pro Quad 2.66, UAD-2Quad, Madiextreme64, SSL Alpha-Link AX

(so far..) Happy DP7.1 user over here!!

Greetings,
Toni

[Crashdown]

grr... 1st crash today... pressed rec button instead of solo, while playing "not so heavy" project.

DP7.1 did an Unexpected Quit...

Well there goes the stability. I must refer that I never had one single crash on 7.02, even with the CPU and Playback peaks on the Performance window!!

Greetings,
Toni

[Phil O]

That was before I installed the new FW driver, which hopefully will remedy that issue as well.

Hmm. I installed the new FW driver as well. Theoretically it shouldn't have any effect on my system at all, since I'm using an Apogee Rosetta on this machine which uses the Apple FW driver, but so far, not a single crash on 7.1 since installing the new drivers. Maybe MOTU tucked some stuff in there besides just the driver...don't know. That's why I was asking about your FW hardware in another thread. Well I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The process is slow because I'm only seeing a crash every couple of days. I could go 2 or 3 days without a crash and think I'm home free, but I won't be happy until I'm seeing zero crashes over an extended period. (Which, by the way, I have seen in 7.02 so far.)

Keep on rockin'

Phil

[Phil O]

grr... 1st crash today... pressed rec button instead of solo, while playing "not so heavy" project.

DP7.1 did an Unexpected Quit...

Well there goes the stability. I must refer that I never had one single crash on 7.02, even with the CPU and Playback peaks on the Performance window!!

Greetings,
Toni

That's pretty much been my experience as well, Toni. Everything will go along fine for a couple of days then an unexpected quit out of nowhere. Tough to troubleshoot when you have to wait so long for a failure.

Phil