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Is there anything out there that works as well as pitch n' time and also works in DP? I am looking to pitch shift completed tracks of full band by as much as 4 semi tones.

schop wrote:Is there anything out there that works as well as pitch n' time and also works in DP? I am looking to pitch shift completed tracks of full band by as much as 4 semi tones.

Melodyne

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Kris..

Waves SoundShifter is as good, if not slightly better than Pitch 'n Time (I use both). However, only the pitch change function is active/available in the MAS version. Waves has said they will update it to include time stretching at a later date.

mastermix wrote:

schop wrote:Is there anything out there that works as well as pitch n' time and also works in DP? I am looking to pitch shift completed tracks of full band by as much as 4 semi tones.

Melodyne

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Kris..

Kris is right. To my knowledge Melodyne is the only other product capable of stereo or polyphonic pitch shifting while maintaining audio fidelity.

However, when you're pitch-shifting a finished mix, you have to realise that everything, including drums and bass, is going to be pitch shifted. You don't have to move very far either way before the track loses its character altogether. If there are vocals on the track, about a tone or so is all you're going to get before the singer gets an attack of chipmunkitis.

Mono files pitch shift much better because formant compensation helps to retain some of the original character. If it was me, I'd be going back to the original multitrack and pitch-shifting individual tracks, and then remixing.

Price-wise, Pitch 'n' Time is $649 Plus Pro Tools if you don't already have it.
Melodyne 3 Studio Edition, which you would need, is $699. M3 also works as a standalone.


Good luck,

Geoff

filtertone wrote:Waves SoundShifter is as good, if not slightly better than Pitch 'n Time (I use both). However, only the pitch change function is active/available in the MAS version. Waves has said they will update it to include time stretching at a later date.

I hadn't heard of Waves Soundshifter. Does it pitch-shift stereo or polyphonic files? If so, do they go chipmunky as you raise the pitch?

Cheers,

Geoff

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chamelion wrote:

filtertone wrote:Waves SoundShifter is as good, if not slightly better than Pitch 'n Time (I use both). However, only the pitch change function is active/available in the MAS version. Waves has said they will update it to include time stretching at a later date.

I hadn't heard of Waves Soundshifter. Does it pitch-shift stereo or polyphonic files? If so, do they go chipmunky as you raise the pitch?

Cheers,

Geoff

Soundshifter is very close in it's design to P 'n T, and it works on stereo ployphonic files brilliantly. It also has variables re the source file to choose to optimitze the results, unlike P 'n T.

filtertone wrote:Waves SoundShifter is as good, if not slightly better than Pitch 'n Time (I use both). However, only the pitch change function is active/available in the MAS version. Waves has said they will update it to include time stretching at a later date.

I can verify that Soundshifter beats PnT. Many times I have had to pitch shift an entire track up or down, and soundshifter always did a perfect job, whereas PnT was hit and miss.

A nice feature in Pro Tools is that they let you choose where to use their own code, or another company's code to do time and pitch shifting. You are presented options in a popup, based on what plugins you have. I chose soundshifter, of course, so ALL time compress and expansion that I do in the edit window is now performed with the Waves code. This is way happening, folk....