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Triggers?
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:38 am
by amerecordingstudio
Okay, do you guys use triggers on your drums? Right now we're facing a kick drum that my boss would really like to retrigger, he just doesn't like the way it sounds, even with tweaking. So my questino is... is the MOTU trigger plug-in worth dealing with, or should we look at drumagog or somethign like that? So far i've been able to trigger okay with the MOTU one, but ij've used Drumagog in the past and really liked it.
Any suggestions?
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:52 am
by oldguitars
Drumagog is the way to go, or beat detective on someones PT rig. Trigger is a great idea but it doesn't work right for accurate drum replacement.
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:09 am
by terencepalmer
The trigger plug-in in DP doesn't seem to be very accurate. Neither is Soundreplacer in Pro-tools. Drumagog is one way to go, but I can't possibly say enough about Aptrigga. It does everything you want it to do. It's incredibly flexable and it is nearly invisible.
http://apulsoft.ch/aptrigga/index.php
Plus, it's pretty cheap. Under $50.
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:32 am
by amerecordingstudio
hmm, looks interesting... and much cheaper, but i'd really like to have a MIDI output like drumagog or trigger.
Thanks
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:23 am
by Fibes
amerecordingstudio wrote:hmm, looks interesting... and much cheaper, but i'd really like to have a MIDI output like drumagog or trigger.
Thanks
Why?
Have you looked at the entire package for Apptrigga?
Just pay the 40 bucks, shut up and thank us later.
Yes, i was rude.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:34 am
by yofo
I Googled it and there was no mention of where to buy it ? Where to you buy it ?
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:29 am
by Spikey Horse
RTFWS!
You can buy/download from the website (link above). Also can download demo - I did, it works very well on the little test I did so far.
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:37 am
by Klaus
I use it live for kick trigger, although in Rax ...
Take care
Klaus
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:15 pm
by jonotron
avoid clavia Ddrum triggers, the kick drum is hopeless and double triggers all the time. If you are a metal artist this may suit you!! Yamaha do a great module to convert a mic signal into triggers, works perfectly every time. Will get back to you with the model, i'm not a drummer (but i know loads)
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:54 am
by midilance
Actually, the ddrum triggers are quite good when used with the ddrum modules. Many of the top metal bands have been using ddrum triggers and ddrum modules (ddrum AT / ddrum3 / ddrum4) for a long time. They have been the best choice that works to the drummers' (and drum techs") satisfaction. They are so good that they tend to cause problems when used with cheaper, less competent trigger modules. The lion's share of the problems are due to lackluster modules.
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:14 am
by TheHopiWay
The three best choices are;
Apptrigga2, Apptrigga2 and Apptrigga2.
If those don't work out go to
http://apulsoft.ch/
They sell a product there called Apptrigga2 that will do what you want.
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:48 pm
by Resonant Alien
apTrigga2....hands down....it is fast, no latency, cheap and just plain works.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:01 am
by Astia
We have been testing Drumagog but it doesnât seem to be too accurate. Some hits are off by a random amount of ms on the Advanced Mode. The Simple Mode has proven to be the best choice. Drumagog is ok when the real sound is not used at the same time (snare track, aux send to an aux track with Drumagog inserted).
I have been trying out a method of using a long track with sine wave, beat detecting a snare track, selecting both snare track and sine wave, Copy Beats from snare track to sinve wave track, Create Soundbites From Beats on sine wave track, set all lenghts app 16th notes, open pitch, copy pitch to a MIDI track. Now I have the snare track as MIDI too.
This way the hits are in correct place but usually after cutting it is very important to check that the cuts are in correct places.
Mayby Motu should make a new "audio to MIDI plugin" using this techique including the velocity of a track.
Mayby I should get a patent for it?
