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Poly AT converted to per-note mono AT in DP11
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:36 am
by sockmonkey
I have a controller which generates true Polyphonic Pressure (not MPE), it appears that in DP11, these messages are auto-converted to per-note mono AT messages. In and of itself, that's not a big deal -- it means I can visualize the messages in the MIDI editor -- and they play back correctly. The somewhat annoying part of this is that per-note events don't show up in the Event List, so my only option for manipulating the data is with graphical tools. I can't tell if it's a bug or a feature, or if I'm overlooking some way of getting access to per-note events in the Event List, but it feels a little like an oversight. It was also a little confusing to know that DP received Poly Pressure messages and not be able to find them.
Anyway, a heads up, and maybe a bug report. Maybe it's a feature request.
Re: Poly AT converted to per-note mono AT in DP11
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:06 am
by stubbsonic
I think Poly-AT and/or MPE would be pretty unwieldy in the event list.
Are you saying that polyAT messages are being changed into MPE (multi-channel) mono-AT?
It would be nice if they preserved an option for poly-AT to work as it is.
None of my keyboards product poly AT. My Kurzweil synths respond to poly AT, so it would be nice to FINALLY be able to create (just in editing) and transmit. Alas.
Perhaps they could have some mode selections in preferences.
Re: Poly AT converted to per-note mono AT in DP11
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:07 am
by sockmonkey
Looks like this might be relevant.
MIDI protocol Settings
The MIDI protocol settings let you identify the device and specify the MIDI protocol for recording and playback for the device. Currently, two protocols are supported: MIDI 1 (the MIDI 1.0 spec) and MPE. Eventually, other protocols may be supported in the future (such as MIDI 2.0).
MIDI 1 settings
Use the MIDI 1 protocol for any device that is not MPE-enabled. When enabled, the Record Poly Touch into Notes option (Figure 15-8) causes polyphonic aftertouch CC streams to be recorded as note-specific data within the note, similar to MPE CC data.
Re: Poly AT converted to per-note mono AT in DP11
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:11 am
by sockmonkey
... that said it would still be nice to have event list access to note-specific data. From what I've read, this seems to be a trend with Clips and now with note-specific data: no editing access outside of the MIDI Editor. It's not a dealbreaker for me, but it sure would be a nice-to-have.