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Been working at 12 bits lately... :(

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:41 pm
by FMiguelez
Nice thing I just discovered!

I've been doing lots of updates to my template lately.
During one of those changes to the bundles, I accidentally set it up in such a way that, in any chunk, the hardware synths' Ins monitor was active and that was signal being sent to the Master (so anything I've bounced for the last couple of weeks has been like this; nothing critical, luckily, but it still has me stumped). Worse, the bundles were duplicated 5-6 times in such a way that, for all practical purposes, I've been working at an equivalent of 12 bits due to the whoping -70ish dBFS of pure glorious noise from the hardware synths duplicated ins. I couldn't believe it when I noticed this tiny little detail courtesy of some left-over buried test tracks...

Worse, I discovered this by mere accident, since one of Trim's meters in the master fader refused to go to minus infinity when clicking on the meter to reset it. The range was set high enough to not see any signal below -60 dbFS or so, and I always monitor quite low, so I never heard it...

This is when you make tests in your template and forget to set it back or fail to incorporate necessary changes in a part of it :roll: :rtfmmad: :smash:

Maybe I should stay like this, though? I raised the monitoring levels to hear it and it kinda adds a nice vintage colour (to my pristine 32bFP/48KHz stems and mix recorded from dozens of GBs worth of 24/48 audio tracks to get said stems) :lol:

Re: Been working at 12 bits lately... :(

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:27 pm
by bayswater
Congrats on the new 12 bit synth.

Do you know how the bundles got duplicated? I've seen that and couldn't figure out how it happened. Maybe from importing bundles, but I don't think I did that.

Re: Been working at 12 bits lately... :(

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:03 pm
by HCMarkus
Best Mix Ever!

- FM's Client
It's like when you have an amazing gig, you feel like you just killed, and no one says anything.

Then you suck at the next show and 12 people come up and tell you how great you were. Que sera, sera.

Re: Been working at 12 bits lately... :(

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:08 am
by waterstrum
HCMarkus wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:03 pm
Best Mix Ever!

- FM's Client
It's like when you have an amazing gig, you feel like you just killed, and no one says anything.

Then you suck at the next show and 12 people come up and tell you how great you were. Que sera, sera.

:rofl: :rofl:
Been there!

Re: Been working at 12 bits lately... :(

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:39 am
by FMiguelez
bayswater wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:27 pm Congrats on the new 12 bit synth.

Do you know how the bundles got duplicated? I've seen that and couldn't figure out how it happened. Maybe from importing bundles, but I don't think I did that.
Yes. I was doing some export/import tests with the bundles. The ins/outs always get duplicates in each import. I wish there was a way to ask DP to only import bus bundles or only instrument bundles, etc.
HCMarkus wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:03 pm
Best Mix Ever!

- FM's Client
It's like when you have an amazing gig, you feel like you just killed, and no one says anything.

Then you suck at the next show and 12 people come up and tell you how great you were. Que sera, sera.
:lol: Exactly!


One thing I can say is that the Bundles window needs an upgrade. Perhaps they could add Bundles folders and make it easy to move bundles around? When you have so many, and the instruments bundles become messy, it's easier to actually do them again instead of moving them from top to bottom to sort them out.
Also, some kind of bundles command creation would be most welcome (create n mono buses from 153 to 275 with an "Automatically sort out by bus number" option checkbox).

Re: Been working at 12 bits lately... :(

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:02 am
by bayswater
FMiguelez wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:39 amOne thing I can say is that the Bundles window needs an upgrade. Perhaps they could add Bundles folders and make it easy to move bundles around? When you have so many, and the instruments bundles become messy, it's easier to actually do them again instead of moving them from top to bottom to sort them out.
Also, some kind of bundles command creation would be most welcome (create n mono buses from 153 to 275 with an "Automatically sort out by bus number" option checkbox).
I'll vote for that. Also, put flippy triangles on the columns so you can skip past some of the VIs that put all their possible outputs in the Bundles window even if you only use one pair.