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SSL UF8

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:12 pm
by Ashermant
Hi all - happy new year!

Has anybody heard if the new SSL UF8 is compatible with DP 10.13?

Thanks!

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:35 pm
by dix
The documentation says DP compatibility is limited volume, panning and banks. ...not sure what banks is referring to.

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:50 am
by waterstrum
Banks refers to banks of 8 channels.
At this point, DP compatibility is hobbled.
Looks like a nice controller.
$1299 seems a bit pricey for such a thing.
I'd pay $299... maybe $499 if they got it working fully with DP. :)

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:51 pm
by monkey man
You're obviously paying for the SSL name and build quality.

Looks like a great unit 'though:




Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:32 am
by waterstrum
Hey MM....
I totally agree.
Very nice unit.
Paying SSL tax for the SSL name.
I'm frustrated that many companies don't consider DP worthy of development.

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:11 am
by monkey man
Yeah, SSL seems to have dragged its feet on this one.

YouTube has UF8 setup videos for all the usual-suspect DAW's but DP is nowhere to be found, at least thus far anyway...

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:31 am
by dix
monkey man wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:11 am Yeah, SSL seems to have dragged its feet on this one.

YouTube has UF8 setup videos for all the usual-suspect DAW's but DP is nowhere to be found, at least thus far anyway...
A business decision no doubt :( There's a recent thread on MN that discusses why the f DP doesn't have more market share.

...meanwhile, MOTU is a hardware company. Hopefully they'll jump in at some point. Seems like they would be more likely to create a universal control surface that would more DP-inclusive.

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:24 pm
by monkey man
Agreed mate, and some of us have been keen to see (and buy) one from MOTU since, like, forever. :lol:

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:52 pm
by dix
I always thought having Direct Hardware Playthrough for DP (only, right?) on MOTU's 424 I/Os was a smart way to help DP sales along. A control surface with a few DP perks would be nice.

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:12 am
by JSmith1234567
monkey man wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:24 pm Agreed mate, and some of us have been keen to see (and buy) one from MOTU since, like, forever. :lol:
I'd would definitely buy one.

I'm guessing the new SSL one would probably work like HUI/MCU, which is really not much help.

The Avid/Eucon thing is such light years ahead of that, including the way it works with DP.

If Motu would build one that was DP-aware, though, it would be even better than Eucon.

As a side note, I think Presonus making a 16-fader unit that is actually affordable is wonderful (as opposed to Avid's overly expensive one), but there are no individual pan-pots?

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:13 pm
by monkey man
Yup.

Honestly, I've never been that interested in a 3rd-party controller, but if MOTU made one for DP, I'd be all-in. :headbang:

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:13 am
by FlikPat
dix wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:35 pm The documentation says DP compatibility is limited volume, panning and banks. ...not sure what banks is referring to.
If it has basic HUI features, shouldn't it then have the same compatibility as a Mackie Control?

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:49 am
by JSmith1234567
I'm not sure of the differences between HUI & (MCU?)?

I think one came later and has more features, or is more accurate with the faders.

Again, the Eucon thing is light-years ahead of that outdated protocol.

And again, if DP would make a control-surface that is DP-Aware-Customizable, that would make the Eucon thing seem arcane.

The Eucon thing is cool if you jump between ProTools, DP and other DAWs that support it, but I really spend my whole day in DP and to have it customizable for DP would be so tremendous.

I tried the free EuControl iPad app again after like 6 years, and remember now why it didn't work for me then...the lack of physical faders and knobs.

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:33 pm
by CharlzS
FlikPat wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:13 am If it has basic HUI features, shouldn't it then have the same compatibility as a Mackie Control?
MOTU created their own overlay for the MCU which assigns different functions to the buttons. So the MCU profile supplied with DP doesn't map to the standard buttons. Faders, pan, record, mute, banking and a few more all generally work as expected, but beyond that is where the trouble lies. Also, third party hardware doesn't copy the MCU hardware completely, so a disconnect there also.

Re: SSL UF8

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:30 pm
by sdfalk
monkey man wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:24 pm Agreed mate, and some of us have been keen to see (and buy) one from MOTU since, like, forever. :lol:
I'd be all over that.
However I'd never expect it to be 299.00 or 499.00