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Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:48 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
Just saved my butt. Did a take. Nailed it. Forgot to hit record. Went up to the region menu and selected retrospective MIDI record and boom! Take papers.

This is so great. Edit/SMPTE track used to do that as well, but only when the transport was active. Now, even the transport doesn't need to be active. Holy cow! Great time saver for forgetful blocks like me. .

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:25 pm
by monkey man
Agreed, Magilla.

The feature is one of the highlights I look forward to when I eventually buy v10. Wished DP had it for a long time now, so I'm stoked. :headbang:

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:15 pm
by Michael Canavan
Yep my favorite unique to Logic feature that DP and others are kiping! :headbang:

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:26 am
by philbrown
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:<<<Now, even the transport doesn't need to be active.>>>
How does DP 'retroactively record' if the transport wasn't running? I must be missing something.

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:43 am
by monkey man
Perhaps it assigns placement according to whatever the current BPM setting is, Phil?

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:48 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
And another thing...!

Retro MIDI record works on the fly! Noodle. Keep the transport going, arm record on where you want the data placed and select retro MIDI and SLAM! You're tracked.

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:31 pm
by HCMarkus
Just used it for the first time last night. My rehearsal run turned into a keeper. All I had to do was find the menu item.

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:39 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
HCMarkus wrote:Just used it for the first time last night. My rehearsal run turned into a keeper. All I had to do was find the menu item.
Frankly, I've been using it a lot. I'll start a movie in DP, move to Finale to start playback of the scene (not via IAC or Rewire, but manually since the Finale method totally sucks) and I might play along or move to the next scene with the transport running in DP while watching the score in Finale. Then if i like what I've done, I'll go to DP and save the retro. No more "boo hoo" moments that I lost a take and I never have to worry about overwriting a previous take as long as I save to a clean track. :woohoo:

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:53 am
by plaukiu
Some observations on its behaviour.

Modes:
1. If transport was on, retrospective MIDI record will plant notes where they were played.
2. If transport was off, there are two sub-modes:
2a. if no time selected, plants at wiper.
2b. if time selected, plants at time selection.

Notes:
* Mode 2 does not override mode 1.
If you played when the transport was on, it will always plant at the exact time-position you played when the transport was on.

* It will plant in record enabled track, regardless of time selection, and regardless of what track you actually played on.

* If you undo retrospective record, the plant returns to buffer.
So in both modes, if you've planted on the wrong track : undo, select another track, retro record.
And in mode 2, if you've planted in the wrong time-position : undo, select another time, retro record.

* The buffer is reset when
mode 1: when you stop transport AND play notes
mode 2: when you start transport AND play notes

* It records tick positions, not absolute time.
If you change tempo before retro-record, it will not stretch the plant to new tempo.

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I don't use multi-record, so I won't check its behaviour.

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:53 am
by Tritonemusic
plaukiu wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:53 am Some observations on its behaviour.
Great post. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:32 pm
by mhschmieder
I totally forgot about that feature; thanks for the reminder!

I have exclusively been doing microphone-based live-instrument (and voice) recording for the past year, but once I wrap up these two albums I'm producing, I'll be returning to projects that involve MIDI-driven VI's and sample libraries, so this is great timing to remind myself of the new=ish Retrospective MIDI feature in DP. I can already foresee how it will save some pain!

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:40 am
by plaukiu
mhschmieder wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:32 pm I totally forgot about that feature; thanks for the reminder!

I have exclusively been doing microphone-based live-instrument (and voice) recording for the past year, but once I wrap up these two albums I'm producing, I'll be returning to projects that involve MIDI-driven VI's and sample libraries, so this is great timing to remind myself of the new=ish Retrospective MIDI feature in DP. I can already foresee how it will save some pain!
Yes, it is a great feature.
But keep in mind, it sometimes bites off a large chunk from the beginning of what you were playing, and I couldn't figure out what causes it.
I have lost a few lovely sections this way.

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:16 am
by Killahurts
MIDI Life Crisis wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:48 pm Just saved my butt. Did a take. Nailed it. Forgot to hit record. Went up to the region menu and selected retrospective MIDI record and boom! Take papers.
When it first became a feature, I didn't think I would use it.. but I'm taking papers quite often now. It has saved a lot for me, including two song ideas that eventually made it to albums!

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:09 am
by ironchef_marc
Love this feature but is it just me it only brings back MIDI notes no controller data?

Re: Retrospective MIDI record - yay!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:08 am
by andrewfez
Is there a way to turn this feature off?

Like if you select retrospective audio only, will it stop recording MIDI in the background?