Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
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Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
Hello Motunation,
Since the upgrades of Play and ease of use of the EastWest Symphonic Orchestra, I am thinking about purchasing Hollywood Orchestra. I keep hearing about problems with Hollywood Orchestra's CPU usage . Does anyone out there experience CPU problems with Hollywood Orchestra and do you recommend buying it? Thank you.
Since the upgrades of Play and ease of use of the EastWest Symphonic Orchestra, I am thinking about purchasing Hollywood Orchestra. I keep hearing about problems with Hollywood Orchestra's CPU usage . Does anyone out there experience CPU problems with Hollywood Orchestra and do you recommend buying it? Thank you.
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Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
When I'm asked about string libraries, I recommend Audiobro's LA Scoring Strings and Cinesamples' libraries. When I was investing in high-end string samples, Play was an underdeveloped playback system, and I read nothing by unhappiness with it online.
LASS and Cinestrings run under Kontakt. So, there's that. Also, they sound incredible.
LASS and Cinestrings run under Kontakt. So, there's that. Also, they sound incredible.
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Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
What genre of music, Allan?
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Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
Thanks for your reply. I have Cinestrings and don't like the sound or how it works.Gravity Jim wrote:When I'm asked about string libraries, I recommend Audiobro's LA Scoring Strings and Cinesamples' libraries. When I was investing in high-end string samples, Play was an underdeveloped playback system, and I read nothing by unhappiness with it online.
LASS and Cinestrings run under Kontakt. So, there's that. Also, they sound incredible.
Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
Film Music....buzzsmith wrote:What genre of music, Allan?
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Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
AllanKane wrote:Hello Motunation,
Since the upgrades of Play and ease of use of the EastWest Symphonic Orchestra, I am thinking about purchasing Hollywood Orchestra. I keep hearing about problems with Hollywood Orchestra's CPU usage . Does anyone out there experience CPU problems with Hollywood Orchestra and do you recommend buying it? Thank you.
fwiw I stopped using EastWest when they went to Play but imo some Important details haven't been mentioned,are you using OSX or Windows?
How much Ram do you have?
Will you be using SSD's?(from what I've read SSD's are pretty much required with Play)
Are you considering VE Pro so you can setup a slave computer?
Many EastWest users repeatedly state Play libraries like Hollywood Orch work much better on the Windows OS than OSX,with lots of Ram, SSD's and multiple computers.
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Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
Different strokes, I guess. I like Cinestrings, but not as my only library... it's great for adding different textures alongside LASS.AllanKane wrote:Thanks for your reply. I have Cinestrings and don't like the sound or how it works.Gravity Jim wrote:When I'm asked about string libraries, I recommend Audiobro's LA Scoring Strings and Cinesamples' libraries. When I was investing in high-end string samples, Play was an underdeveloped playback system, and I read nothing by unhappiness with it online.
LASS and Cinestrings run under Kontakt. So, there's that. Also, they sound incredible.
When asking for recommendations in the future, you might tell folks what you've already tried, whether it's instruments or trouble shooting: there's nothing more irritating than a thread consisting of suggestions answered by, "Yeah, I did that and it didn't work."
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Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
The Spitfire stuff is also friendly towards scoring type work, for a different sound from Hollywood, but they change the interface on each update and some may be annoyed at the learning curve such updates entail (though it gets easier each time, if starting from scratch with no preconceptions). Way more expensive than East/West Hollywood though, which is yet again on 50% or more off (might have ended now that NAMM is done).
I find the earlier EWQL stuff to be too rigid and inflexible towards natural articulations, dynamics, and phrasing, so have weaned myself off of the little use it still got. Some of the raw sounds are quite rich and lush, so hopefully the Hollywood series goes way beyond that and has way more configurability.
Some people buy a few of the Hollywood libraries piecemeal, as standouts from the crowd. I hear this in particular with regards to the Harp (which I am considering, even though VSL harp is magnificent and I have others too), and Orchestral Percussion (almost every such library has some key elements that are missing from most or all of the competition).
One thing to consider when it comes to strings, is whether there are distinct Violins I and Violins II available. I don't know whether film composers score that way or not, as a rule (the more traditional ones certainly do), but what many people forget is that there can be a doubling problem in terms of ensemble size, if splitting the part to separate tracks but using a full section, and a timbral problem if using a smaller chamber ensemble for the combined sections to match the full orchestra size.
I find the earlier EWQL stuff to be too rigid and inflexible towards natural articulations, dynamics, and phrasing, so have weaned myself off of the little use it still got. Some of the raw sounds are quite rich and lush, so hopefully the Hollywood series goes way beyond that and has way more configurability.
Some people buy a few of the Hollywood libraries piecemeal, as standouts from the crowd. I hear this in particular with regards to the Harp (which I am considering, even though VSL harp is magnificent and I have others too), and Orchestral Percussion (almost every such library has some key elements that are missing from most or all of the competition).
One thing to consider when it comes to strings, is whether there are distinct Violins I and Violins II available. I don't know whether film composers score that way or not, as a rule (the more traditional ones certainly do), but what many people forget is that there can be a doubling problem in terms of ensemble size, if splitting the part to separate tracks but using a full section, and a timbral problem if using a smaller chamber ensemble for the combined sections to match the full orchestra size.
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Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
Quick answer. no LOL
but do Love LASS, SPitfire, & Cinesamples,
the PLAY engine we find quite pitiful.
but do Love LASS, SPitfire, & Cinesamples,
the PLAY engine we find quite pitiful.
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Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
Also can't recommend. EastWest are miracle-makers: Never have I heard such consistent brilliance in taking huge libraries, any single note from which is jaw-droppingly gorgeous on playback, and making them speak so poorly as instruments. It's a big shiny business - value is always kinda-sorta delivered (but with massive room for improvement!!!!) Avoid.
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Re: Do you recommend purchasing Hollywood Orchestra?
I have also been plagued by Play's poor performance for years. However, the latest free update (there is also a new paid version for old users) is much more stable. I am able run tons more instruments and they load much more quickly. I use them alongside LASS, Kontakt Libraries and Spitfire.
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