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DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:59 pm
by raromatix
I asked a question in a Facebook group
Peter Hansen No Digital Performer?
Like · Reply · June 4 at 4:40pm
Mixed by Marc Mozart. Sorry, no. We put in months of work into each of those, and very few people are still using Digital Performer. I know it's a great DAW and it's a pity many people dropped it for ProTools but the truth is they lost the game.
Like · Reply · June 5 at 3:50pm · Edited
More about ”the Mixing Mozart” here:
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Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:26 pm
by Michael Canavan
I'm not sure what you're expecting any of us to comment on with this?
It's one guy, who thinks DP is in direct competition with Pro Tools....
You could make the argument that Cubase, Logic, and Pro Tools are bigger market share wise, but none of them release any numbers, and DP is still around, still being updated. What game?
Obviously this guy doesn't use DP, so to him it "lost". Not worth reading any more than that into his statement.
DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:37 pm
by James Steele
Firstly this really belongs in the OT forum since it's not really criticism of a specific feature of DP, etc. Thus it is moved.
Secondly, I removed the link. Don't see any reason why he'd want his product promoted on a user forum for a "dead" DAW anyway.
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:41 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
...because everything people say on Facebook and the internet is true.
NOT!
C'mon man! Get real. Ask around the LA composers actually working in film. Big names and small names. They are
mostly using DP and have for years. Only suckers and people working for post houses that are
forced to use PissTools don't use it. Even the head guys at Pixar who use PT at work take stuff home to do the hard stuff fast and easy on DP. That's is straight from the horse's mouth.
Yeah, I'm a "fanboy" and with good reason. Look, if you don't want to use it, don't use it. But don't try to spread dumb ass comments here. Go back to Facebook and do your thing. We are not interested in your crap.
Duh!

Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:38 am
by cleamon
raromatix wrote:I asked a question in a Facebook group
I know it's a great DAW and it's a pity many people dropped it for ProTools but the truth is they lost the game.
It depends on who "they" are. MOTU or People who dropped DP. When I first read that, I read that as "they=people that dropped DP" were the losers. In other words "but the truth is, those that dropped DP, lost the game".
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:22 am
by stubbsonic
In theory, competition makes developers strive to put out the very best-- in terms of features, power, reliability and support. In reality, it gets very complex to compare fairly. And developers have to stick to the principle vision & scope of their particular software design. In other words, DP (and Logic, and Pro Tools, for that matter) can't be all things to all users.
In many cases, people have loyalty to what they are used to; while some users will choose from multiple DAW options, based on the needs of a particular project.
I don't know about the other user forums, but here, we see a large number of power-users who do very high-level work. And these are users who have much more than passing familiarity with the competition. I've seen power-users who throw major shade at Make Music (Finale) and Waves-- with good reason. But they are loyal DP users, not because they are loyal, but because MOTU and DP have earned it.
We've seen in many threads that there are certain kinds of workflows that DP doesn't do as well as other software, just like DP crushes it with advanced composition work-flows (as just one example).
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:48 am
by mikehalloran
The MOTU Facebook page is a poor place to get real information. FB is not conducive to it. It is great for fake news, however.
Sometimes you get lucky but this is a far superior resource.
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:54 am
by wylie1
Whats a Pro Tool?
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:37 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
wylie1 wrote:Whats a Pro Tool?
I'm afraid I can't answer that without violating all forum rules and a few of the Ten Commandments.
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:53 am
by cuttime
i think I'm gonna change my name to "Bob Beethoven".
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:59 am
by mikehalloran
Gotta be in here somewhere...

Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:42 am
by Gravity Jim
Hi, Bob. I'm Gus. Gus Mahler.
And I always consult a Facebook group when I want an unreasoned or irrational opinion from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
Oh, wait, that's why I quit using/participating in/reading/ visiting Facebook.
Also, Mr. Raromatix: one post at the beginning of 2011. Then, nothing, until you roll back in a couple weeks ago to smudge the air with 6 posts keening about how a guy at MOTU didn't figure out your problem instantly, and now this. You don't have much constructive to say.
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:10 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
cuttime wrote:i think I'm gonna change my name to "Bob Beethoven".
Rollover
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:51 pm
by mikehalloran
Gravity Jim wrote:Hi, Bob. I'm Gus. Gus Mahler....
Did someone cue up Britten's
Death in Venice?
It's about Mahler as an old man.
Re: DP ”lost the game” ?
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:14 pm
by Gravity Jim
mikehalloran wrote:Gravity Jim wrote:Hi, Bob. I'm Gus. Gus Mahler....
Did someone cue up Britten's
Death in Venice?
It's about Mahler as an old man.
Well, I'm for sure an old man. So... music, maestro, please.