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Magic Mouse with OS Sierra Issue wrecks DP Pitch Editing
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:36 pm
by waxman
This has been driving me nuts... Today with the help of MagicD he found an issue with Sierra and the Magic Mouse. It's not a Sierra deal killer but it is a pia. The Magic Mouse does not work correctly with Sierra. Google it there is an explanation. This did not show up for me until editing pitch and only after the last Sierra update. So because the Magic Mouse is slow to react when you select a pitch it will get a yellow line and then you can't drag it. The left click is being interpreted as letting go so it becomes selected. About 30% of the time this happens. This is ONLY with the Apple Magic Mouse. It may work not happen with Magic Mouse 2 and it is not an issue with plug usb mouse or my track ball. I am off to the Apple store to get a Magic Mouse 2...
Re: Inconsistent Pitch editing with DP 9.12 Magic Mouse Sier
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:38 pm
by cuttime
waxman wrote: The Magic Mouse does not work correctly with Sierra. Google it there is an explanation.
Anybody know if this is fixed in 10.12.2?
Re: Inconsistent Pitch editing with DP 9.12 Magic Mouse Sier
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:59 pm
by waxman
cuttime wrote:waxman wrote: The Magic Mouse does not work correctly with Sierra. Google it there is an explanation.
Anybody know if this is fixed in 10.12.2?
I am using 10.12.1 It seems to also be a problem with the track pad and Magic Mouse 2 I'll go get 10.12.2 hope this does not start the merry go around breaking something else...
Re: Inconsistent Pitch editing with DP 9.12 Magic Mouse Sier
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:10 pm
by waxman
Updating to OS Sierra 10.12.2 now
Re: Inconsistent Pitch editing with DP 9.12 Magic Mouse Sier
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:39 pm
by waxman
Did NOT fix magic mouse issue.
The work around for pitch editing is to start the mouse moving so it has inertia as you click on the note. Then it moves and the pitch can be changed... still a bummer. Don't know if Magic Mouse 2 will work.
Re: Inconsistent Pitch editing with DP 9.12 Magic Mouse Sier
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:20 am
by waxman
Anybody get this problem solved... no magic mouse love with Sierra here
Re: Inconsistent Pitch editing with DP 9.12 Magic Mouse Sier
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:43 am
by amplidood
This has been driving me bonkers as well.
Re: Inconsistent Pitch editing with DP 9.12 Magic Mouse Sier
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:25 am
by mikehalloran
I keep an old Logitech trackball wired to my iMac.
I've never been able to do precise editing with my Magic Mouse—don't see it any worse in Sierra.
If Santa surprises me with an MM2, I'll be interested in seeing if there's a difference.
Re: Inconsistent Pitch editing with DP 9.12 Magic Mouse Sier
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:58 am
by HCMarkus
No difference MM1 to MM2. Tested. Also tried with Bluetooth 3 and 4 adaptors. No difference noted.
Thanks for the inertia tip Waxman.
Re: Inconsistent Pitch editing with DP 9.12 Magic Mouse Sier
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:01 pm
by waxman
You are welcome eye guy...
Well Mike I have a track ball also... It's wild as hell though... I'll have to see if I can slow it down and get it to act correctly. I would think Apple must be gonna fix this soon. What a goof up. How do you mess up on programming for the mm... Magic Dave uses a plug in mouse so he was not aware of it. But I have been using the MM mouse for a couple years or more and love it until it turned schizo under Sierra.
Re: Magic Mouse with OS Sierra Issue wrecks DP Pitch Editing
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:40 am
by waxman
Who would have thought??? I waited months until everything was compatible with plugs, hardware, software and dp BEFORE I switched to OS Sierra. It's the flippin' Magic Mouse doing the watussi when I'm trying to edit pitch that ends up being what gets me. ahhhhhh!!!!!
while screaming at the top of my voice obscenities.
Re: Magic Mouse with OS Sierra Issue wrecks DP Pitch Editing
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:50 pm
by HCMarkus
From Adobe Forum, provides some insight:
Apple's touch-based devices are very sensitive, and support gestures that can input multiple scroll commands at once (i.e., "scroll 10 units" instead of "scroll 1 unit, then scroll 1 again, then scroll 1 again..."). Swiping to scroll, for example, will input scroll commands based on the speed and length of the swipe, and it slows as it comes to a stop. This appears to give momentum to your gesture in long lists, such as a Finder window with hundreds of files. Swiping to scroll left or right in the Timeline panel in After Effects also responds like this.
On macOS 10.11 and earlier, if you move your finger slowly on an Apple touch devices while zooming in the Composition panel, you get the predictable 1:1 scroll behavior; moving your finger a certain distance equates to one stop of zoom. Swipe gestures, however, are simply interpreted as "a lot of scroll commands". Since the Apple touch devices are sensitive, it's easy to move your finger too quickly and end up with the Composition view zoomed all the way in or all the way out.
On macOS 10.12, Apple appears to have modified the commands sent by scroll gestures. It's difficult for me to characterize, you have to feel it for yourself, but the difference appears to be in how the speed of finger movements is interpreted. During slow scroll gestures, I observed that zooming in the Composition panel was inconsistent; sometimes it would scroll one stop, sometimes it would scroll multiple stops. It is difficult to control my finger accurately enough to keep the scroll rate consistent, like it is on macOS 10.11.
Hopefully Apple and/or MOTU will address this, and soon! It is a buzzkill.
Re: Magic Mouse with OS Sierra Issue wrecks DP Pitch Editing
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:12 pm
by waxman
Yeah... I can deal with the mouse scroll even though it's like ice skating... the issue for me is the click being to slow. That caused me to pull out my track ball. I agree I think Apple with have this fixed soon. I can't imagine what the CAD guys are trying to deal with.
Thanks for the info HCM. There are many complaints on the net. Alas Apple engineers need Christmas too...