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9.02 playback performance [solved]

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:50 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
This is big news, IMO. A member said that MOTU acknowledged he should not use 9.1 as there are playback performance problems. I also have seen these and thought it was my system. I could not bounce any files w/o pops & clicks. I finally did so by opening the file in 9.02, but if 9.1 is so impaired that playback is a problem NO ONE should be using it, IMO. Somebody please talk me down...

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Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:20 pm
by kassonica
Oh well, I guess I'll put off installing DP9.1 at the studio for a few more months :shake:

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:47 pm
by Phil O
I've posted this before, but I'll post it here again. MOTU has CONFIRMED a bug when placing plug-ins post fader that causes audio dropouts/playback performance issues. If you run into these problems check your mixing board and see if you've placed any plug-ins post fader before you freak out and try any other stuff. I was told that this issue will be fixed in the next release. So far I've had no problems with projects that have all plug-ins pre fader. For those that don't I open them in 9.02.

Phil

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:10 am
by hangyear
I also have a same problem with bad playback performance and downgraded to 9.02. I don't use any plugins at post-faders. I also have a VEP 5 playback latency problem at 9.1 (higher buffer).
I guess I need to wait for the DP 9.11 update.

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:32 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
Phil O wrote:I've posted this before, but I'll post it here again. MOTU has CONFIRMED a bug when placing plug-ins post fader that causes audio dropouts/playback performance issues....
Phil
So my inserts were all pre-fader (the old default). I have another project starting up in a few days and will report back if it continues to be a problem. Thanks for the responses.

...minding the audio performance meters...

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Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:58 am
by Phil O
In the screen shot you provided look closely at the lower left hand corner of the inserts. See that little dot? Click-drag it up and you'll see the divider move up through the inserts. Not very obvious, I know. I think it took me a while to find it the first time, too.

Phil

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:47 am
by Michael Canavan
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:This is big news, IMO. A member said that MOTU acknowledged he should not use 9.1 as there are playback performance problems. I also have seen these and thought it was my system. I could not bounce any files w/o pops & clicks. I finally did so by opening the file in 9.02, but if 9.1 is so impaired that playback is a problem NO ONE should be using it, IMO. Somebody please talk me down...

Here the post:

viewtopic.php?p=529991#p529991

From this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=62163
I'm not experiencing these issues with 9.1. This happens with every piece of software released with major changes to the program, a slew of people have systems or uses for the program that slipped through the cracks. They encounter bugs quickly and call the release a travesty etc. not you in particular, just noting forums are erupting with this sort of rhetoric.

Sorry to hear you guys have issues, but the fact remains, saying no one should be using it is going a bit too far. Recommending that people take heed using it in a commercial environment is a great idea, but let's be honest here, if you jump in on a major upgrade that could introduce bugs and hinder your bottom line, you're already throwing caution to the wind.

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:26 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
Phil O wrote:In the screen shot you provided look closely at the lower left hand corner of the inserts. See that little dot? Click-drag it up and you'll see the divider move up through the inserts. Not very obvious, I know. I think it took me a while to find it the first time, too.

Phil
:rofl:

I tried that but it didn't work. Now that I zoomed in a bit I could. Thanks, PhilO!

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:28 am
by bayswater
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Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:34 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
bayswater wrote:Image
I think I initially tried to drag from the right side. Now that it's been dragged, I can drag from either side.

Could they make it any harder to find??? :mumble:

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:52 am
by bayswater
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Could they make it any harder to find??? :mumble:
Probably not, but once you find it you never forget where it is.

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:53 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
bayswater wrote:
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Could they make it any harder to find??? :mumble:
Probably not, but once you find it you never forget where it is.
Just like life... :rofl:

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:10 pm
by JSmith1234567
I went back to 9.02, and everything is working again.

They absolutely have to bring back the global preference to skip pre-gen and use run-in-real-time for everything.

That was the heart of all of the problems I seemed to have had.

Re: 9.02 playback performance [solved]

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:17 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
After deleting ALL version of the PSP Xenon plug from ALL sequences and replacing them with the AU version, as well as finding and moving the pre/post fader indicator, my performance meter is barely visible with audio playback. MIDI playback is between 5-10% at most. I still see a spike at sequence start and stop, but it appear that VST is the enemy, at least as far as my issues go.

Re: MOTU suggests rolling back to 9.02/bad playback performa

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:37 pm
by Phil O
MIDI Life Crisis wrote: :rofl:
Oh, so you caught that, huh?