Help needed with tempos and project mismanagement!
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:50 am
Hi all...
I had a rather large tracking session yesterday in a new studio and unfortunately made a couple of rookie errors in planning along the way.
We were laying down about 10 different percussion parts to a piece of music that was already recorded. To save memory, I bounced down a stereo file of the original track with the bass and drums a bit higher in volume so the percussionist could follow the rhythm.
The files for the track were sent to me pre-recorded, no click and the tempo varies a bit as they are a trio playing live in the studio. I found the nearest BPM by ear and set the conductor track to 122. This has allowed me to sync vocal delays pretty accurately.
I imported the bounced stereo file to the percussion session, but left the BPM there at 120 whilst tracking.
After the session, I imported the pre-tracked drums and bass to the 120 session and it all sounds fine. When I bounced down the percussion tracks (highlighting till 1/0/00) when I import them to the previous session things don't line up properly, it seems in time more or less, but the ultra tight groove and swing is off, and I can't put my finger on it. Changing the BPM throws everything out even more.
At this point, I'm thinking to just import all previous tracks I had started mixing, vocals, keys, etc to the tracking session and continue the mix there, as the percussion and drums/bass sound good in that session file.
However in my first session file, I have done a tonne of complex automation for pan, sends, volume and plugins on the vocal takes that I don't want to lose as it took hours to do. Is there a way of exporting the vocal tracks (there are 7) with all automation data saved to it and then import to the tracking session?
I hope that makes sense, I realise I need to keep a tighter ship with these details right from the start, but any help is much appreciated.
Regards
I had a rather large tracking session yesterday in a new studio and unfortunately made a couple of rookie errors in planning along the way.
We were laying down about 10 different percussion parts to a piece of music that was already recorded. To save memory, I bounced down a stereo file of the original track with the bass and drums a bit higher in volume so the percussionist could follow the rhythm.
The files for the track were sent to me pre-recorded, no click and the tempo varies a bit as they are a trio playing live in the studio. I found the nearest BPM by ear and set the conductor track to 122. This has allowed me to sync vocal delays pretty accurately.
I imported the bounced stereo file to the percussion session, but left the BPM there at 120 whilst tracking.
After the session, I imported the pre-tracked drums and bass to the 120 session and it all sounds fine. When I bounced down the percussion tracks (highlighting till 1/0/00) when I import them to the previous session things don't line up properly, it seems in time more or less, but the ultra tight groove and swing is off, and I can't put my finger on it. Changing the BPM throws everything out even more.
At this point, I'm thinking to just import all previous tracks I had started mixing, vocals, keys, etc to the tracking session and continue the mix there, as the percussion and drums/bass sound good in that session file.
However in my first session file, I have done a tonne of complex automation for pan, sends, volume and plugins on the vocal takes that I don't want to lose as it took hours to do. Is there a way of exporting the vocal tracks (there are 7) with all automation data saved to it and then import to the tracking session?
I hope that makes sense, I realise I need to keep a tighter ship with these details right from the start, but any help is much appreciated.
Regards