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for Guitar players..... how to?

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:45 am
by artfarm1
Hi all guitar players who may also be users of sample-based instruments.

I could ask some guitar player friends these questions (whom I would use on my final product because I don't believe that we can truly replicate what a great guitar player can do.... and I say that as a trombone player who hates some of the 'music' that has passed for brass playing as produced by uninformed 'musicians'....)

Anyways, I use MachFive 3, and am starting to investigate the 'Telecaster' instrument.

I'd like to get a good 'modern Nashville, rockin' guitar sound' for some short demos, without having to bother a great but busy guitar player friend of mine at this point in the process.

And, I'd like to educate myself as to what to ask of a good studio guitar player.

Think of the sound of a guitar player/prodcucer like Dan Huff.... and his productions and the work he does with people like 'The Band Perry'.... think of the song 'Done', or something like that.

He has the guitar sounds that I'd want to emulate if I was a guitar player myself!

Questions from a brass player:
- with an instrument like the MachFive Telecaster, should I start choosing 'amps' first; then looking at pedals/efx.... or vice versa?
- any good starting points or recommendations?
- any other good libraries that you'd recommend to check out, like EastWest Ministry of Rock, etc.?

Thanks for any starting points!

Re: for Guitar players..... how to?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:39 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
FWIW, I'd start with the general sound (amps) and add the FX pedals, etc., to that. Maybe some other members might help on the other questions?

Re: for Guitar players..... how to?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:18 am
by artfarm1
Am checking out all the pedals, FX, amps, etc. in DP.

Feeling like a 'semi-guitar' player!

But just wanted to mention the East-West 'Ministry of Rock 2' package in case anyone is unfamiliar with it.

Amazing for demos.

Amazing sounds for the rhythm section, and guitar playing that moves between legato, picking, etc. with the mod wheel.

(Don't worry James!..... your instrument is safe in the hands of real guitar players!)

Re: for Guitar players..... how to?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:50 am
by bayswater
I usually play all the guitar parts, but recently used the Mach Five telecaster in a couple of songs where the composer wrote a part that is physically impossible on a guitar. I wouldn't use it at all (or any other emulated or sampled guitar) in a part that is prominent in the song, only in a background part that peeks through now and then. When I've used it, it seemed best to work with the neck pickup factory setting, and get it as good as possible with no additional amps or effects, and then add some eq, amp and effect settings during the mixing. I haven't been able to get a convincing sound yet out of the bridge pickup settings.

The next time I do this, I'm going to try re-amping through a Vox amp to see if that helps with the bridge pickup sound and gets closer to the sound of a real guitar.

Re: for Guitar players..... how to?

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:21 pm
by artfarm1
Thanks for the ideas!