Has this Waves and DP problem been resolved??

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Has this Waves and DP problem been resolved??

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Hello.

I don't even know if this was an issue to some of you to start with, but with DP7.24 and Waves 7.1.1.6 there's been a problem since at least DP4 (and I report it until now :shake: )

No matter what Waves plug-in I'm using, if I automate something, and select a point of that parameter, the Event Information window doesn't reflect the true value of the parameter as seen in the plug-in.

For instance, instead of seeing the automation point for a Renaissance Compressor as a Ratio value of 3:1 or 4:1, I see 500.000 or 600.000 in the Event Info window.
Same with its Gain parameter... If I take a snapshot and the Gain parameter is set at the default (0.00 dB in the compressor), and I select it and see it in the Event Info window, it will read 500.000 instead of 0.00.

This makes it impossible to edit plug-in parameters numerically AND graphically because the values and the scales do not correspond, and each parameter seems to be set arbitrarily within a weird range that tells you nothing about the real value. Waves' parameters have a scale (range) from 0 (all the way down) to 1000.000, as seen by DP, no matter what the parameter is. What the heck?

Has that changed with DP8? Please tell me it has... :smash:
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Re: Has this Waves and DP problem been resolved??

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Believe it or not, I don't remember ever entering values in that way with WAVES plugs, but I see the same thing you describe. When the Gain on RenComp was set to 0.00, the display in the Sequence Editor showed 500.000. When I clicked in the field to try and change the value, DP crashed. LOL!

I'm glad I don't rely on this method very often. :?

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Re: Has this Waves and DP problem been resolved??

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It crashed?! :o

Usually I use that method to correct or tweak the values that were recorded with my Novation controller, or tweak previously taken snapshots.

If I want to edit it graphically, the best I can do is to "calculate" (a ojo de buen cubero, as we say here) by figuring a visual scale according to the position of the vector in the given space in the GE. As you can imagine, that makes it very imprecise.

If I want to set the Gain numerically (or tweak its previously set value) at -6dB, I'd have to GUESS and type something in the vicinity of 394.892. Isn't that... idiotic, to be polite? Why doesn't DP show the parameter values as seen in the plug-in??? :?
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Re: Has this Waves and DP problem been resolved??

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Ah yes, first time I've heard anyone describe it. And sadly, yes, it's still there as of DP8.05 (haven't put 8.06 through it's courses) and Waves9. Thought it was just me.

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Re: Has this Waves and DP problem been resolved??

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FMiguelez wrote:It crashed?! :o
I don't think I've had a crash in DP7.24 in over a year. That's why I'm still sticking to this version. It's been phenomenal for me.

I reopened DP and gave it another shot. It didn't crash. I replaced the Gain value to 300.000 in the Sequence Editor, and it ended up showing as -12.0 in the RenComp plug-in window.

Edit: I'm using WAVES V8.
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Re: Has this Waves and DP problem been resolved??

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I hear you, brother. Been looking at this for a long time.
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