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Anyone else finding DP 8 to be sluggish compared to 7.24?

I'm using a pretty big template (80 - 100 tracks but no VI's just ReWire MIDI to Bidule and then FX on the returns). This works reasonably well in DP 7.24 but I have long been critical of the graphic redraws on 7 (especially when scrolling). Track comping is usually enormously frustrating experience.

I was hoping DP 8 would be better, but I'm actually finding it noticeably worse. It feels like I'm constantly waiting for the GUI to respond to my commands even more so than 7.24.

Here's what I've done to try and improve the GUI performance:

- Many different configurations for Studio Settings

- Stripped down my template to only about 16 MIDI and audio tracks (using Bidule to host VI's)

- Disabled all AU and VST plugins (this actually helped quite a bit. Prior to finding a problem AU that was being loaded - but not enabled in the project -, I was literally waiting 1-2 seconds to nudge a MIDI note). Even with the AU & VST plugins disabled though, I still find it noticeably worse than 7.24.

- 32bit and 64bit modes.

- Using the built in audio.

- Repaired permissions.

After trying to work with 8 for several days, I think I'm going back to 7.24. I hope MOTU will be able to substantially speed up the GUI over the coming update cycle.

I haven’t had much time to try out 8 but I did notice 2 things quickly. I, a NEW Dp8 file seemed very “SNAPPY”. An old 7 file seemed a bit sluggish , but I didn;t play with it long.
In the past I have seen it a typical scenario where a new version opening a file from an old version has certain issues.
I would try rebuilding your entire template anew in DP 8, see how that works.

Yeah, I've noticed that too. I forgot to mention in my post that I also rebuilt my template from a clean DP 8 empty project.

I feel exactly same thing. I've been waiting almost a year for this release and I really wanted to like it, I've tried everything: permissions, 64 and 32 bits, disabling plug ins, changing buffer sizes, reading every single post in Motunation, etc, etc. Sadly its not happening, but my mileage may vary.

BTW I don't like by any means the new "plug in management", is there a way to have the option to select a plug ing like we've been doing in the last 12 years?

Best regards.

delcosmos.

delcosmos wrote: BTW I don't like by any means the new "plug in management", is there a way to have the option to select a plug ing like we've been doing in the last 12 years?

delcosmos.

amen to that !

DP8 is certainly sluggish here compared to 7.2x.

labman wrote:

delcosmos wrote: BTW I don't like by any means the new "plug in management", is there a way to have the option to select a plug ing like we've been doing in the last 12 years?

delcosmos.

amen to that !

Right-click opens the plugin menu in the old manner.

Yes, super sluggish for me when using video. Unusably so. Here's what I've posted elsewhere in hopes someone has a solution:

The easiest way to see what I'm seeing is to launch DP8 and click around in the Finder, opening windows etc., then import a movie into DP8, start it a few times, and then do the same maneuvers back in the Finder. On my system, navigation in the Finder becomes very slow - varying with the size of the QT that DP8 is running. …and of course the video in dp is very choppy as well. Clearing the movie brings everything back to normal. No such issues in 7.

I'm thinking there's a pref that could be trashed or some setting. I've tried trashing a lot of stuff already. Any suggestions are welcome.

Also, can anyone tell me what/where "Auto-Detect Video Mode" is that the manual refers to on page 278? Tech support was also baffled by that reference in the manual.

Thanks!

dix wrote:

labman wrote:

delcosmos wrote: BTW I don't like by any means the new "plug in management", is there a way to have the option to select a plug ing like we've been doing in the last 12 years?

delcosmos.

amen to that !

Right-click opens the plugin menu in the old manner.

Yes, super sluggish for me when using video.
Thanks!

Thanks for the tip, I was having really bad time with that.

Best regards.

Delcosmos.

dix wrote:

labman wrote:Right-click opens the plugin menu in the old manner.

For some reason its not working in my system

I right-click and the menu is the same with the new search plug in option, what I'm doing wrong?

Hmm. Are you clicking and holding? Try control clicking.

dix wrote:Hmm. Are you clicking and holding? Try control clicking.

Its working in my Macbook, but for some reason its not working in my Mac Pro with a Kensington Trackball, the weird thing is that the right click works on other applications or the finder but its not working in DP.

delcosmos wrote:

dix wrote:Hmm. Are you clicking and holding? Try control clicking.

Its working in my Macbook, but for some reason its not working in my Mac Pro with a Kensington Trackball, the weird thing is that the right click works on other applications or the finder but its not working in DP.

Found it! It was something with the Mouseworks application, you can set the click types per application and it was set to only left click on the four buttons of my Trackball.

Thanks dix.

delcosmos.

dix wrote:

Right-click opens the plugin menu in the old manner.[/quote]

yes, but due to the intermittent keystroke issues as mentioned in other threads, it is iffy at best At least on our rigs.

delcosmos wrote:

dix wrote:

labman wrote:Right-click opens the plugin menu in the old manner.

For some reason its not working in my system

I right-click and the menu is the same with the new search plug in option, what I'm doing wrong?

Nothing ! it just doenst work a lot of the time.

Have you noticed that the insert buttons effectively cut in half? the right side is used for loading/changing the inserts, and the left side is for opening the plugin window and moving/copying the plugins. Thankfully, the cursor changes to indicate what zone of the button you are on. It's possible the right-click-and-hold old dropdown menu only works on one side (probably the left side, which never brings up the plugin management window). This will take some getting used to, but I'm confident that I will learn to use it effectively. I actually really like the new plugin management window.

However, contrary to all other statements, DP8 doesn't feel sluggish at all, in fact, it feels noticeably snappier than DP7. I'm working on an old DP7 project, and I haven't encountered any of the slowdowns that everyone else is talking about. In DP7, I had some terrible scrolling problems at certain zoom levels, and DP8 clears that up, so I'm happy.

I am however having keyboard shortcut problems