CueMix FX for pci 424 users

Royal Tee · Post by **Royal Tee** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:04 pm

Do you own a 2408mk3, 24I/O, HD192 or other PCI-424 system? You'll be glad to learn that MOTU's well-regarded CueMix FX software is now compatible with your PCI-424 system.....
Now, owners of PCI-424 systems can enjoy the benefits of CueMix FX, with its tabbed interface that adapts to your hardware configuration.

That's what MOTU says about their new CueMix but after installing this for my 2408mk3 (PCI-424) all we get is a sluggish, pretty, dumbed down version of the cuemix fx... No Input, EQ, reverb.. what gives?

I even checked on youtube and arounz da intewebz only to read the same thing.
Is this a flat out lie or am I missing something here?

rodger1811 · Post by **rodger1811** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:19 pm

Yep, you're missing something. If you look further you'll find that there's more......

Royal Tee · Post by **Royal Tee** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:30 pm

rodger1811 wrote:Yep, you're missing something. If you look further you'll find that there's more......

Thx for the response but If you're referring to the FFT, Ocilliscope, X/Y, Phase & Tuner that's not what's missing. I was looking for the Tabs, EQ and Reverb that are NOT displayed on my CueMix

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:40 pm

Not possible due to the hardware apparently. What do you want?

Stillwork · Post by **Stillwork** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:31 am

The new CueMix FX is extremely sluggish. It eats up about 30%-50% of CPU just being opened and minimized.

I usually have the CueMix panel open for monitor adjustments during sessions but, this CPU hungry version is not usable while tracking. I uninstalled and reverted to the previous drivers. The previous version uses an undetectable amount of CPU and doesn't slow my system down at all, the whole initial benefit of CueMix DSP.

The new graphics and layout are beautiful, but I can not view all 24 channels of my 24i/o on my 24" monitor. Prettier, but not as usable.

And yes, it was unclear with the promo hype that the added features of tabs and EQ were not available to 24i/o users.

I hope someone is looking under the hood at the new CueMix and finding out what is happening for PCI-424 Win7x64 users. I wouldn't think MOTU would intentionally release a control panel that performs this poorly.

billruys · Post by **billruys** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:17 pm

Stillwork wrote: The new graphics and layout are beautiful, but I can not view all 24 channels of my 24i/o on my 24" monitor. Prettier, but not as usable.

I Agree that with the old version, it was possible to get many more channels on screen at a time. While the new version is pretty, I think I like the old version better because of this alone.

The one thing I do like about the limited CueMix FX however, is the guitar tuner. I've used some horrible software tuners, but MOTU have got this one right.

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:34 am

Royal Tee wrote:
rodger1811 wrote:Yep, you're missing something. If you look further you'll find that there's more......
Thx for the response but If you're referring to the FFT, Ocilliscope, X/Y, Phase & Tuner that's not what's missing. I was looking for the Tabs, EQ and Reverb that are NOT displayed on my CueMix

Hey, by the way Royal Tee... during another thread discovered MOTU's YouTube channel. Kudos on your really classy comment there about "ABSOLUTE FAIL."

labman · Post by **labman** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:36 am

Having some difficulties here wrapping our heads around how to 'quickly' manage configs in the new PCI driver CUEMIX FX version.

We first have to 'import' our many old CUemix files. That puts them into the config column where they can be accessed. But how do we do a 'save as' if we wish to alter one? The 'save-to' seems to want to overwrite something else int he column. Arghhh.

rezmax · Post by **rezmax** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:21 pm

So what was the answer? I too am missing the tabs in CueMix FX 1.6. But if you read here in this thread, clearly nobody has answered the first question....what gives? How do you get to it? is there a workaround? I'm not able to get to the DSP portion of the "nice" pcie-424. Please help. Thanks.

UltimateOutsider · Post by **UltimateOutsider** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:13 pm

rezmax wrote:So what was the answer? I too am missing the tabs in CueMix FX 1.6. But if you read here in this thread, clearly nobody has answered the first question....what gives? How do you get to it? is there a workaround? I'm not able to get to the DSP portion of the "nice" pcie-424. Please help. Thanks.

CueMix FX can't give you DSP features your interface isn't equipped with. You'll only get those tabs for interfaces that have those features. For example, I've got an UltraLite-mk3, and CueMix exposes all the mixing, EQ, and effects features. But when I switch over to my PCIe-424 all I see is Ins and Outs, because that's all that unit (my 24I/O hosted on the 424, that is) does.

HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:54 pm

I use CueMix FX on my MOTU 828mkII. It works perfectly, but I don't expect software to magically add DSP features the hardware doesn't support.

If you need tracking 'verb with your 424-based or older Firewire-based system, get an outboard 'verb and bus it. This approach works great for me. I also use outboard (mine's a Lexicon) reverb in my mixes on occasion.

Releaux · Post by **Releaux** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:34 pm

I'll throw my .02 in here. I certainly don't expect my hardware to magically gain DSP features (though that would be pretty cool

). However...

I have a 2408 and two 24i/o modules in my system. Even with the old mixer, it was a chore to see everything I needed to see and the new UI design, though gorgeous, is a bit piggy with the real estate. Also, for some inexplicable reason, the window is still limited to showing a maximum of 32 channels. With the old UI, I might have had a shot at seeing all my my IO without that limit.

Also, the new mixer insists on showing all possible channels whether or not I have them enabled in PCI Audio Setup. I don't use the 2408 for anything but the SPDIF connection, but I now see the disabled banks (1 analog, 1 adat) in the Cuemix mixer UI.

The new soft oscilloscope, tuner, etc., functions are very cool and will come in handy when dealing with old analog gear. I think this is a nice step forward, but hope that they'll add the ability to have a "narrow" view of the mixer (a la Reason), or incorporate true skinning that allows for changes to the layout and not just graphics replacement.

I could always go back to a previous version, but the tuner and scope are pretty darn useful. However, like the OP, I keep Cuemix open pretty much constantly. I have a lot of older, noisy gear and use it to mute and unmute gear, as well as quickly route through outboard FX.

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