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Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:03 am
by gavspen
Hi all:
Whilst repairing permissions I got the following message:
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Am I in trouble? Is my system angry with me? Anyone got a clue?
Thanks
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:46 am
by Tritonemusic
You have nothing to worry about. You'll find your message listed among others here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:52 am
by FMiguelez
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Did you get that in a dedicated frightening message, or was that shown in the Repair Permissions window, probably along with MANY such messages next to each item?
I ask because if it's the latter, I've seen something very similar to that before here too, many times.
Apparently, some permissions refuse to be repaired (you can see this if you repair them again immediately after). You'll see a lot of the supposedly previously repaired ones being repaired again, and again... like if it didn't work or something.
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:00 pm
by gavspen
FMiguelez wrote:.
Did you get that in a dedicated frightening message, or was that shown in the Repair Permissions window, probably along with MANY such messages next to each item?
It was in the Repair Permissions window.
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:01 pm
by gavspen
666 wrote:You have nothing to worry about. You'll find your message listed among others here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks. Good to know
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:46 pm
by FMiguelez
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Yeah, thanks for the link, 666.
I get the "ACL found but not expected..." message a lot, and I never liked it, but according to your link those messages are of no concern to us.
Still, do you guys suspect some permissions seem to never get repaired?
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:56 pm
by Frodo
666 wrote:You have nothing to worry about. You'll find your message listed among others here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Okay-- now for a pop quiz. This time, in Portuguese!!
Only now do I understand what they meant when they said "the geek shall inherit the earth".
I gotta get my lrwxr going big time!
Seriously-- I've seen the SUID thing a gazillion times and had no choice but to click 'okay'. SUID is a binary shell app like SGID which allow the user (who knows what he's doing) to munk around at the root level of OSX in the name of security. It really doesn't impact the 99% of us-- and even for the remaining 1% there is some question as to whether or not any munking should be done at all.
SUID = set user indentifcation
SGID = set group identification
Now, you may feel no more enlightened right now for all of that info, but just wait until the OSX version of Trivial Pursuit is released!!
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:08 pm
by Frodo
FMiguelez wrote:
Still, do you guys suspect some permissions seem to never get repaired?
On some level (like the root level) some permissions are best left denied. For all the twiddling we feel entitled to (including access via the dreaded Terminal, which most users are afraid to use), OSX must protect itself from its own users in many ways by denying certain permissions "repairs" and keeping System Folder out of the scan of Spotlight lest something essential be inadvertently deleted.
However-- thanks to the wisdom of Apple--- their users fall victim to partially inexplicable denials of permissions simply because the latest versions Disk Utility GUI suddenly give users more info than necessary.
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:21 pm
by Tritonemusic
Frodo wrote:...but just wait until the OSX version of Trivial Pursuit is released!!

Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:45 pm
by gavspen
I wonder WTF you guys are talking about.....

Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:54 pm
by cuttime
To quote Mark Twain: "Those that respect the law and love sausage should watch neither being made."
Might I add "Permissions".
The best thing about Onyx is that the sausage maker is invisible.
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:40 am
by Frodo
gavspen wrote:I wonder WTF you guys are talking about.....

Hey Gav, no worries. Trivial Pursuit is a popular guessing game in the USA. Sometimes these forum threads remind me of that game as we're all attempting to dig through the Terminal and the permissions code readouts, or to uncover which files and preferences in DP relate to specific tasks in an effort to make sense of them.
(I like that Mark Twain quote cuttime put up!! LOL!!) Sometimes it's better not to know.
There seems to be no end to the sleuthing for info, and it often makes me feel like the dumbest person in the universe.
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:57 am
by mikehalloran
SUID permission messages are usually eliminated by downloading the combo updater instead of using the version updater.
In any case it is not a problem. It is a message telling you that something was modified in the latest update.
ACL errors are eliminated through Terminal. There are a number of different ways and I have never found one to work consistently.
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:19 pm
by Frodo
mikehalloran wrote:SUID permission messages are usually eliminated by downloading the combo updater instead of using the version updater.
Not on this end. I always do the Combo download and I still have the SUID exception. Where DAWs are concerned, I have a lot less at risk on my laptop (which is where I'll take all of my installation chances), but I have 10.6.4 (combo install) and the latest "everything". The continuing SUID permissions exception is more of a visual nuisance than anything else.
Re: Repair permissions message
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:16 am
by Tritonemusic
Frodo wrote:mikehalloran wrote:SUID permission messages are usually eliminated by downloading the combo updater instead of using the version updater.
Not on this end. I always do the Combo download and I still have the SUID exception.
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