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Click Track

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:40 pm
by yesdog
Are there any plug ins for the click track for DP6 I am not very pleased with click selections.

Re: Click Track

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:09 pm
by FMiguelez
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You can use ANY audio you wish for this, including yourself saying: "one, two, three, four", etc. You just have to put your personalized audio in the proper folder with the proper format and you'll be able to use them inside DP as normal.

Having said that, may I ask what is it about those sounds you don't like? They're just standard click sounds good to only help keeping a steady tempo when tracking :?

Re: Click Track

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:08 pm
by Armageddon
You can also mix the default click track (or whatever click track sounds you choose) to taste. Personally, I use the click for my two-bar countoff only and just have a looped 4/4 or 3/4 drum beat triggering EZ-Drummer (like a VI drum machine), since I can't really play to a click, I need a drum beat. You can do precisely the same thing with an instance of Model-12. Just create a one-bar 4/4 drum beat, loop it "forever" and have it output to an instance of Model-12 with whatever kit or sounds you want (which you can then remove once you don't need it anymore) and you have instant drum machine!

Re: Click Track

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:23 am
by Phil O
Armageddon wrote:You can do precisely the same thing with an instance of Model-12. Just create a one-bar 4/4 drum beat, loop it "forever" and have it output to an instance of Model-12 with whatever kit or sounds you want (which you can then remove once you don't need it anymore) and you have instant drum machine!
The times I've done this, my clients prefer it hands down over a simple click. Even for drummers, I will sometimes add a shaker playing 16th to the click to give them a more precise sense of where the beat is. I use Model-12 all the time this way now, even if it's just quarter notes on a HH for the rare occasion when someone wants just a click. And, for ritards, sub-dividing the beat can be very helpful. The Drum Editor/Model-12 combination is very fast and easy to set up once you get used to it.

Phil

Re: Click Track

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:42 am
by yesdog
FMiguelez wrote:.

You can use ANY audio you wish for this, including yourself saying: "one, two, three, four", etc. You just have to put your personalized audio in the proper folder with the proper format and you'll be able to use them inside DP as normal.

Having said that, may I ask what is it about those sounds you don't like? They're just standard click sounds good to only help keeping a steady tempo when tracking :?
Thanks for your help. I am a drummer The click sound I am after is something like a medium
pithed clave or wood block type sound. I am used to that and its a short sound that does not allow any tempo waver. some of the click sounds like the ride cymbal or hi hats can give you the feeling you are right on the money but it has a long sound, So you have space to not be right on the beat. I would think it would be easier for you guys to do edits and do punches if the drummers tempo is dead on. So all I have to do is record my Jam block and loop it and I will have the sound I like. Thanks again.

Re: Click Track

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:35 pm
by Armageddon
Phil O wrote:The times I've done this, my clients prefer it hands down over a simple click. Even for drummers, I will sometimes add a shaker playing 16th to the click to give them a more precise sense of where the beat is. I use Model-12 all the time this way now, even if it's just quarter notes on a HH for the rare occasion when someone wants just a click. And, for ritards, sub-dividing the beat can be very helpful. The Drum Editor/Model-12 combination is very fast and easy to set up once you get used to it.
Not being a fan of Model-12, I was using my old Boss DR-770 to keep time, and due to some issues with DP's MIDI beat clocks that, insofar as I know, have never been resolved, it was a dicey process. If I started anywhere but Measure 1, the drum machine tended to kick off at random, meaning, sometimes, I'd get the first kick drum like I was supposed to, sometimes I'd get it in the middle of the beat, sometimes, a snare. Plus, having an external drum machine to keep time when everything else was a VI was just awkward. I bought EZ-Drummer to have a dedicated drum VI and to replace my drum machine and never looked back. I can just pick a 4/4 beat from the list of grooves (I have my own 4/4 and 3/4 beats) and drag it into a DP MIDI track outputting to EZ-Drummer, loop it and have a rock-solid drum track that always starts where it's supposed to. EZ-Drummer also has built-in 1/2 and 2x MIDI beat functions and an adjustable "humanize" function.

That's just my personal preference, though. These days, there's a lot of options out there for drum machine-style timekeeping, including laying in loops, programs like iDrum and, of course, Model-12, which is arbitrarily already at your disposal. Plus, like we've discussed, you can just port whatever sound you want to use as a click and mix it to suit your ears.