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Applying Automation to Effects Plug Ins

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:09 pm
by deeprooted
I have a song recorded that has a clean drum beat sound. In the sequencer I duplicated this drum track to a second track so I could mix a "clean" and "effects" version of the two in my mix. On the second drum track I want to add some distortion settings to specific portions of the drum beat (i.e. just the verses, or change the distortion between the chorus and the verse). I have tried doing this via automation but I must be doing something wrong. When I play it back the track only contains whatever distortion setting I last used.

To put it in real simple terms: I am trying to apply a distortion plug in effect to a track via the sequencer. I want to be able to apply the effect differently in different portions of the track. Via automation, what is the best way to do this? Im using DP6.

Re: Applying Automation to Effects Plug Ins

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:06 pm
by HCMarkus
Try running the distortion plug in in real time.

Re: Applying Automation to Effects Plug Ins

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:21 pm
by deeprooted
I have done that. but that will only let me listen to it in real time. wouldnt that mean that each time i listened to the track id have to do that? trying to get it to become part of the mix so i wont have to touch it again.

perhaps im confused about the best method of automation to do this.

Re: Applying Automation to Effects Plug Ins

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:27 pm
by nickysnd
If you are working with a MIDI track triggering a VI, send the audio out from your VI to an aux track and insert your plugin there. Then open your plugin's automatable features there in the "Insert" (Sequence window) - you should be able to draw the automation with the pencil, or record it on the fly.

Re: Applying Automation to Effects Plug Ins

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:35 pm
by Umbrella
deeprooted wrote:I have a song recorded that has a clean drum beat sound. In the sequencer I duplicated this drum track to a second track so I could mix a "clean" and "effects" version of the two in my mix. On the second drum track I want to add some distortion settings to specific portions of the drum beat (i.e. just the verses, or change the distortion between the chorus and the verse). I have tried doing this via automation but I must be doing something wrong. When I play it back the track only contains whatever distortion setting I last used.

To put it in real simple terms: I am trying to apply a distortion plug in effect to a track via the sequencer. I want to be able to apply the effect differently in different portions of the track. Via automation, what is the best way to do this? Im using DP6.
If the distortion plug you're using is an AU, then DP pre version 7.x won't allow track automation for it.

If the plug you're using is an AU and is capable of receiving MIDI cc data, then you might be able to automate the parameter(s) using a MIDI track set with the plugin as the output destination.

The easiest solution, provided that you can get acceptable results, is to use one of DP 6's included MAS plugins for the distortion (like Preamp-1) and automate via track automation, as it seems you're trying to do.

Re: Applying Automation to Effects Plug Ins

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:58 pm
by newrigel
deeprooted wrote:I have done that. but that will only let me listen to it in real time. wouldnt that mean that each time i listened to the track id have to do that? trying to get it to become part of the mix so i wont have to touch it again.

perhaps im confused about the best method of automation to do this.
If your truly hearing what you want... just send the output of the drum track(s) to the same buss (hypothetically speaking bus 19-20 in stereo) and assign the record enabled tracks input to that same bus (19-20) and record what your hearing... done!

If you can hear it, you can record it! :wink: