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polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:45 am
by dave pine
just when we finally get a tuner in dp, here comes this to change the game, it's like melodyne dna in a tuner pedal

http://www.tcelectronic.com/PolyTune.asp

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:53 am
by funkyfreddy
I saw this and was wondering if it would work with guitars tuned in non standard tunings like D/A/D/G/B/D or D/G/D/G/B/D, 2 of the more common alt tunings I use.... :)

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:51 pm
by conleycd
I thought this was pretty cool too.

I don't think it would work in none standard tuning unless it has a chromatic feature.

CC

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:05 pm
by toodamnhip
Very cool..
I WANT

How much?

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:47 pm
by newrigel
Saves the guitar techs some work he he..

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:00 am
by Shooshie
dave pine wrote:just when we finally get a tuner in dp, here comes this to change the game, it's like melodyne dna in a tuner pedal.
I've wondered why nobody did that. It's not nearly the complex problem of Melodyne's DNA. If you have any meter that does FFT (Fast Fourier Transform), you've basically got the building blocks to create this. In an FFT meter such as the one in DP's Masterworks EQ, you can watch the pitches you play as they rise and fall in amplitude across the horizontal pitch indicator. What's amazing is that the math to do this has been around since about the time of Beethoven's 3rd and 4th symphonies. (1804-1806)

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:53 am
by stephentayler
funkyfreddy wrote:I saw this and was wondering if it would work with guitars tuned in non standard tunings like D/A/D/G/B/D or D/G/D/G/B/D, 2 of the more common alt tunings I use.... :)
Judging by the USB socket on the back:

http://www.tcelectronic.com/media/polyTune_rear.jpg

and the following quotes:

"If you are a guitarist that likes to play at a different pitch than standard, this is your go-to pedal, allowing for dropped tunings from E-flat all the way down to B. Whatever your pitch or tuning, PolyTuneTM is a sure-fire way to be spot-on, with an accuracy of just plus/minus 1cent.

Of course, all of these amazing features would not mean a thing if they were a pain to use or set up. So, we added some traits to ensure this tuner is calibrated to the guitarist. Unlike most other tuners, PolyTuneTM stores your preferences. From pitch reference to tuning mode, it hangs on to this information even after it is powered down, making sure you only have to set how you want things to happen once."


I think all tunings might be catered for

kind regards

Stephen

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:04 pm
by toodamnhip
Shooshie wrote:
dave pine wrote:just when we finally get a tuner in dp, here comes this to change the game, it's like melodyne dna in a tuner pedal.
I've wondered why nobody did that. It's not nearly the complex problem of Melodyne's DNA. If you have any meter that does FFT (Fast Fourier Transform), you've basically got the building blocks to create this. In an FFT meter such as the one in DP's Masterworks EQ, you can watch the pitches you play as they rise and fall in amplitude across the horizontal pitch indicator. What's amazing is that the math to do this has been around since about the time of Beethoven's 3rd and 4th symphonies. (1804-1806)
How many other things in life do you orient yourself to according to the yrs Beethoven wrote symphonies...lol...

You really need some help man...:)

lol..just jokin'...:))))

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:08 pm
by Shooshie
What can I say, dude? I'm a musician.

Shoosh

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:54 pm
by SixStringGeek
I could see using that for gigging. For studio or casual use, I just use this thing:

http://bitcount.com/cleartune/index.html

Granted I have to enable the monitors to use it and it isn't silent, but I always have it and it is very easy to use. And it is only $4 :-)

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:08 am
by ramadev
Too bad the range is only 435-445 . . . I often play with folks who tune to A = 424.
SixStringGeek wrote: . . . For studio or casual use, I just use this thing:

http://bitcount.com/cleartune/index.html
Thanks for the link; this looks very cool.

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:36 am
by SixStringGeek
ramadev wrote:Too bad the range is only 435-445 . . . I often play with folks who tune to A = 424.
You should send the developer a note saying that. I betcha it is just a tweak to a constant in a file - like zero work - probably they'd enable that in the next release.

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:37 am
by dinobass
Cool idea, but I think in use it might not make as big difference as on first glance. Say you strum your guitar and see that a couple of strings are sharp, a couple are flat and a couple in tune: you're still gonna turn each tuner one at a time (a guy with 6 arms who can split his focus on multiple tasks would kill on this thing, though!) In fact, a guitar that is completely out of tune, say one that has been sitting in the corner awhile, would take the same amount of time to tune up with the polytune versus an ordinary tuner. It'll help with quick troubleshooting of one or two sour strings, for sure, if those few seconds make a difference in your situation. And I like a lot of the non-poly features.

Re: polytune...how cool is this

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:58 am
by ghobish
dinobass wrote:Cool idea, but I think in use it might not make as big difference as on first glance. Say you strum your guitar and see that a couple of strings are sharp, a couple are flat and a couple in tune: you're still gonna turn each tuner one at a time (a guy with 6 arms who can split his focus on multiple tasks would kill on this thing, though!) In fact, a guitar that is completely out of tune, say one that has been sitting in the corner awhile, would take the same amount of time to tune up with the polytune versus an ordinary tuner. It'll help with quick troubleshooting of one or two sour strings, for sure, if those few seconds make a difference in your situation. And I like a lot of the non-poly features.

True, but it will prevent folks with, well, "lesser ears" from accidentally using one of the out-of-tune strings as their reference for tuning by ear. Drives me crazy to hear someone onstage who can't strum an E chord and hear which string is out, then completely un-tune their guitar in front of a crowd.