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I'm an IDIOT..........

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........for using DP since version 5 and not taking advantage of clippings. Those who are using them regularly know why...... :roll: :| :D :D
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Dan Walsh wrote:........for using DP since version 5 and not taking advantage of clippings. Those who are using them regularly know why...... :roll: :| :D :D
Don't feel bad, I just started using them a few months ago. They are cool.
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dont feel bad - they didnt work for me until version 6.. used to crash me!

they really helpful..

whats this new development in 7.1? alias to folder? i havent had time to investigate yet!!!
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What are these clippings you speak of...? :)

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Dan,

I don't currently use them but use DP mainly for VI's, and work most in the MIDI realm. How do YOU use them to better your workflow?
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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:What are these clippings you speak of...? :)

j/k
I call balk.... :o

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Mr MLC :roll: :)

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I can give a couple of great ways they work around here. We move between mediums all the time, sometimes producing radio, sometimes TV sometimes scoring or posting our film work.

If we're doing a radio project I have a clipping window with virtually all of our SFX and production music libraries floating there. If I'm involved in a long format film project, I do a lot of the the post...well during. Then I have a clipping window with any and all elements of the project from scripts and notes to clips, design ideas and looks - really anything that's part of the ongoing process, all organized and available without ever having to leave DP even to look at a desktop.

If I'm producing music it's similar in that I can have multiple versions and pieces and ideas that I may have done over weeks or more. I always listen to a lot of the genre I'm producing during the creative process - not the writing but the production, and a ton of it during mixing and mastering. So clippings can hold sketches and snippets, notes reference songs by other artists etc.

For long term work like that clippings are great and for fast broadcast stuff where you need all your resources in front of you in real time they're all that too.
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Post by tonester »

Dan Walsh wrote:........for using DP since version 5 and not taking advantage of clippings. Those who are using them regularly know why...... :roll: :| :D :D

I'm with you on this. Just discovered their power myself. Especially when you create a "Digital Performer one!
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Well is sounds like MOTU has obsoleted my application for them, but I used them to copy groups of plug settings from one song to the next, so I'd start each mix within an album with the same settings.

You can also copy parts of or entire sequences which has been helpful when I want to move just a section of music or sequence to another project file. I do a lot of contiguous live recording and I can just drag a section to a clipping and drop it into my next template. Very handy!
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erikjamesmusic wrote:Dan,

I don't currently use them but use DP mainly for VI's, and work most in the MIDI realm. How do YOU use them to better your workflow?
Well, firstly, I'm a touring guitar player by trade who happens to use DP to make a few records here and there in my studio. I love the piano, but I cannot play one to save my life. I can however noodle around and come up with some pretty cool stuff, but I have a hard time playin' some of the same parts over and over. It would literally take me hours in the studio to come up with a clean flowing part. I use VI's to do this with BTW. So last night, I stumbled across these "clippings" we have all heard about. I was able to record one good part that I wanted to use throughout the demo but Instead of copy and paste, I saved the part as a clipping for later use so as to insert it into a section further on in as opposed to going back, doing a copy, and then pasting. Then when I realized the power of this, I just went ahead and tracked small sections of different Piano parts, saved them as clippings with appropriate names, and then started building the trax.

I know this is not a revelation to the ones who use this method, and I know for sure all the keyboard players are rolling their eyes saying, "maybe you better stick to guitar Walsh" (and they would be correct in that thought) but this little method has saved me tons of time when demoing. I have a handful of keyboard players on hand for the studio, but at least I can give em' a reasonable demo to work from, which is gonna save even more time in studio.

Nothin' new here, but a HUGE revelation for a guy with a keyboard who has no business playin' one :| :D
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I've never used Clippings, but it pretty much sounds the same as the method I usually go with, which is, recording my MIDI tracks one section at a time from Measure 1. You record the intro on one track. Stop. Quantize it, clean it up, play it over and over til you're sure it's right. Mute that track. Open a second MIDI track going to the same channel, record just your verse from Measure 1. Clean it, quantize it, mute it. Now, record your bridge on a third track. Chorus on a fourth track. Break on a fifth track. Etc. Now, you have all your elements, you can just copy and paste those elements together in any formation you want on its own MIDI track and you have the basic skeleton of a song without the hassle of trying to lay down the entire track in one take. Plus, with all these elements, you can experiment with the song's layout, copy and paste a verse into a new MIDI track and rearrange, add or subtract notes. That may be the exact same thing as Clippings, like I said, but that method works for me, especially if I'm working on a score: I can just save those elements as various themes and I can paste them quickly into a MIDI track after I've laid out locked Markers, just to get a general sense of layout in a timeline, which I can then go in and manipulate and edit to taste. One of the myriad of reasons I love DP ...
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But in the same spirit and heavier, there's system of Chunks !
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Clippings - Good.

Every time I finish a client's song, I look over all the tracks and save any tracks that I spent time dialing up. Could be a reverb, a shaker track (save the MIDI and VI in one clipping), a cool specialty delay, electric guitar stack (VI running through amp sims), whatever. I save them in their respective clippings folders then they are there for the next project.
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Clippings are great. I used them much like the new Plugin-preset saving menu in 7.1 - very handy.

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I haven't tried clippings since the early days, when they were sort of hard to use and weren't very helpful to me.. This thread has me thinking I need to explore them again. :)
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