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How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:00 am
by fbkaiser
Perhaps you all have discovered these things, but if not--
I always:
1. Reformat before updating OS or DP.
2. Log off before shutting down.
No, it's not a long list, but a good one, I think.
I hope others will put up their ideas on this.
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:28 am
by Don T
Hello:
If you have a slower system, turn off the playback scubber (speaker icon). During edge edits and the like it overloads the buss and unexpectedly quits.
<small>[ April 26, 2005, 09:29 AM: Message edited by: Don T ]</small>
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:00 am
by dweiss
Originally posted by fbkaiser:
1. Reformat before updating OS or DP.
Man, you must have a lot of free time.
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:43 am
by fbkaiser
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Originally posted by fbkaiser:
1. Reformat before updating OS or DP.
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Man, you must have a lot of free time.
Actually, I have no free time. I spend all of my workday recording and have no time to spend on screw-ups in my system. I don't update so often that the thorough cleansing of the drive amounts to anything like the time I could waste jacking around with it trying to get it to work.
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:32 am
by dweiss
Well, what ever works for you of course. I'm guessing you don't have many plugs or VIs to re-authorize each time. For what it's worth I've never done either of those steps and don't have crashing problems. However, I do repair pemissions before and after any install of anything.
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:10 am
by donreynolds
Hey Dan,
Could you tell me how to repair permissions and what is the reason to do so?
I have never done that before.
also, is it safe to trash any preferences? I hear people say to trah DP prefs sometimes when there is a problem. will they reload automatically when you re-boot?
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:44 am
by mastermix
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:00 pm
by dixiechicken
Hi Don!
You start DiskTool in /Applications/Utilities-folder
You can only repair permissions on the bootdrive
Mac OS-X have a standard set of permissions on every file in the system. (for things to work properly)
For some reason many installers seem to mess up these permissions.
This can i worst case make programs stop working
or at least screw things up pretty bad.
( if you suddenly lost permissions to save files in a certain folder - perhaps you couldn't save your newly recorded audiofile - as an example)
Cheers: Dixiechicken
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:06 pm
by Shooshie
Originally posted by fbkaiser:
Perhaps you all have discovered these things, but if not--
I always:
1. Reformat before updating OS or DP.
2. Log off before shutting down.
No, it's not a long list, but a good one, I think.
I hope others will put up their ideas on this.
Maybe those are valid points. I don't know. But I don't do either one, and I have no problems with DP.
Shooshie
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:17 pm
by chrispick
Originally posted by Shooshie:
Originally posted by fbkaiser:
Perhaps you all have discovered these things, but if not--
I always:
1. Reformat before updating OS or DP.
2. Log off before shutting down.
No, it's not a long list, but a good one, I think.
I hope others will put up their ideas on this.
Maybe those are valid points. I don't know. But I don't do either one, and I have no problems with DP.
Shooshie
Same here.
I wonder how logging off would even affect, let alone benefit, DP stability.
That said, if it works for ya, gotta love it.
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:30 pm
by Timeline
Sooshie is right about log offs.
External FW, scsi or USB drives can sometimes hang up a shutdown command.
Log offs seem to help somehow and they are faster but I don't know why.
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:42 pm
by dweiss
Originally posted by Don Reynolds:
Hey Dan,
Could you tell me how to repair permissions and what is the reason to do so?
I have never done that before.
also, is it safe to trash any preferences? I hear people say to trah DP prefs sometimes when there is a problem. will they reload automatically when you re-boot?
I believe your permissions question has been answered. Trashing prefs when there's an application specific problem can help but figuring out which one to trash is tricky. In OS9 it was a simple matter but in OSX there seems to be multiple pref files for everything. I would imagine most of them would regenerate after trashing but I haven't had to do it enough to really advise you.
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:56 pm
by mastermix
Originally posted by Dan Weiss:
Originally posted by Don Reynolds:
Hey Dan,
Could you tell me how to repair permissions and what is the reason to do so?
I have never done that before.
also, is it safe to trash any preferences? I hear people say to trah DP prefs sometimes when there is a problem. will they reload automatically when you re-boot?
I believe your permissions question has been answered. Trashing prefs when there's an application specific problem can help but figuring out which one to trash is tricky. In OS9 it was a simple matter but in OSX there seems to be multiple pref files for everything. I would imagine most of them would regenerate after trashing but I haven't had to do it enough to really advise you.
Try Jonathan Nathan's "Preferential Treatment" free utility that checks for corrupted System and User Level Preference files at
http://homepage.mac.com/jonn8/as/html/pt.html
It received a 5-star rating from VersionTracker.
Kris..
<small>[ April 26, 2005, 08:57 PM: Message edited by: mastermix ]</small>
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:11 pm
by Keith Henry
Originally posted by Don T:
Hello:
If you have a slower system, turn off the playback scubber (speaker icon). During edge edits and the like it overloads the buss and unexpectedly quits.
Ah Ha.... That explains it. I have that happen too & it's so annoying. Actually it happens to me if I edge edit during playback, you know like you've found a spot you need to edit during playback so you amke the edit-Ooops crash. But, ya know you'd think on a dual 1.25 G4 simples things like this wouldn't happen.
Thanks Don T
Cheers
Re: How To Avoid Crashes
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:14 pm
by DonaldDriver
rather than have to re-authorize plugins it is nice to have a mirror of your drive before you update, so if the new update is screwing things up just switch to the other OS... yes it requires 2 HDs

but it is *the* way to go
