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Why doesnt MOTU release any ACTUAL specs for thier gear

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:25 am
by thashobs
Does any body know .

Look at some other companies spec sheet for their gear
http://www.mackie.com/products/400f/specs.html

where can i find a spec sheet for the 828 mk3 I would like to know the REAL specs.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:10 pm
by emulatorloo
Doesn't this page cover a lot of the same ground?

http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/ ... tures.html

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:34 pm
by EMRR
That MOTU page covers virtually nothing with regards to technical specifications.

Maximum input as a standard level reference, and a stated impedance.

Maximum output as a standard level reference, and a stated impedance.

Distortion reference % with any declared bandwidth or frequency weightings, with a standard reference level. And 0 dB FS %.

Noise reference level with respect to 0 dB FS input or output with any declared bandwidth or frequency weightings. See here for more detail on this:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 0&start=15


All pretty standard stuff that one wants to know when running a professional studio.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:37 pm
by James Steele
Dunno... but since this is a company policy thread and not an actual equipment usage sort of thead, I'm moving it.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:39 pm
by EMRR
Oh, it's absolutely an equipment usage issue! It's absolutely foolish to think it's not! It is certainly a reasonable discussion for users of MOTU hardware.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:46 pm
by James Steele
EMRR wrote:Oh, it's absolutely an equipment usage issue! It's absolutely foolish to think it's not! It is certainly a reasonable discussion for users of MOTU hardware.
Well let's agree to disagree then. From my reading it appears to be a complaint that MOTU does not publish the specs for their hardware. That isn't a fix-it or a "help, my ____ isn't making sound" type of post, but a company policies criticism and I put those into the MOTU Theoretical, OT forum. Thanks.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:47 pm
by kassonica
I have to admit I agree with you.

I believe they should post full specs of there converters so one can compare them.

However it saying that, they are consistent in their secrecy :roll:

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:50 pm
by James Steele
P.S. I guess I'm absolutely foolish, then.

I'm not debating whether it would be important or not to have this information. I'm only telling you how I must try and keep some order with the subjects here to try and keep the categories somewhat useful and not clutter up multiple forums with "policy" discussion.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:51 pm
by EMRR
Sounds like a question to me; not necessarily a complaint. My tone is certainly more complaint oriented. No doubt about that.

this is a gear question

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:02 am
by thashobs
f anybody knows the specs I would like to know them ie....

Headroom
THD
dynamic range
DSP speed ???MHz
Signal to noise ratio
input/output impediance
Mic pre specs


how am I supposed to push my gear to the limit without knowing these specs



please move the question back to the gear page. im not complaining about any kind of "policy"
Im demanding that the information that audio engineers like myself would like to know

why was this post moved????

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:41 pm
by OldTimey
as well as my 828 has performed (knock on wood) its the last MOTU interface ill ever buy, in part because of this policy of not publishing complete specs.

Re: this is a gear question

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:32 pm
by James Steele
thashobs wrote:please move the question back to the gear page. im not complaining about any kind of "policy"
Im demanding that the information that audio engineers like myself would like to know
No.

why was this post moved????
Although I don't owe you an answer, I'll have already explained myself.

Re: this is a gear question

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:28 pm
by RCory
thashobs wrote:how am I supposed to push my gear to the limit without knowing these specs
When the little LED goes into red, that's bad.

Maybe.

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:00 pm
by thashobs
gee thanks.

Re: this is a gear question

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:40 pm
by kassonica
RCory wrote:
thashobs wrote:how am I supposed to push my gear to the limit without knowing these specs
When the little LED goes into red, that's bad.

Maybe.
When you plug the speaker out from your 100 watt marshal into the mic pre and smoke comes out of the interface that's bad very bad.

Err you could email them for the total specs, maybe.