kgdrum wrote:hey all:it looks like EW changed the upgrade policy(quietly)now there is no charge to keep the original NI license and it appears they folded it in to the upgrade price.
I was on the phone with them I think I am understanding all of this correctly.
Folded it in or "added to"? Hmm. I never paid much attention to the numerous other upgrade price paths because mine was so different since I'm kissing NI-everything good-bye. I had NO IDEA that the NI double license was part of this!!
But this is interesting, kg. Once again, you all but spearheaded this cause and hammered it home despite opposition. You win again for all of us.
Wow!... and thanks!!
kgdrum wrote:
I have Gold and Gold XP Pro bundle and want to upgrade to Platinum Plus,the catch is I will have the original Gold bundle(NI fully operational) and will have the Platinum Plus upgrade($599) which will be Play only,this seems like a fair deal but I wonder how well this will work with my 2.7 dual PPC(6.5 gigs ram). Play seems to be optimized for newer Macs...
I would think that you should be fine with your hardware setup. You might want to get more RAM since PLAY will use everything you have installed.
"Optimized for Intel" doesn't mean that PPC support will suffer on the software level. Certainly, Intels have a hardware advantage and PLAY will fully support the Intel architecture. But I really don't think you'll feel a *particular* disadvantage on PPC. In fact, the 64-bit addressing should bring new life to your 2.7.
The G5 is the minimum CPU, according to their system requirements, but you're at the top of the G5 heap with your machine.
kgdrum wrote:
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I know I am going to upgrade sooner or later to a Macintel,but am a bit hesitant as of now with all of the 8 core issues(i use UAD)
any comments,advice,how well is other Play VI's with PPC?
thanks
KG
Yeah-- the 8-Core issues are more troubling than many expected. While some issues are indeed DP-related where VI prerendering and certain AU protocols won't appear until DP6 arrives, a recent chat with my trusted music merchant who is also an authorized Mac dealer confirmed many suspicions about what's going on with the 8-Core and all Macs running OSX are due to a variety gaffes with Apple's approach.
While Snow Leopard will add what Leopard should have had anyway, the fact that the hurdles have prevented even Apple from getting Logic 8 into true 64-bit addressing implies a rather grim reality. Add to this the fact that Apple appears to be dropping PPC support for Snow Leopard and you have a violently mixed blessing in the works.
With that said, I have FabFour and have also confirmed that F4 is apparently a LOT less taxing than MOR, Gypsy, or the other PLAY libraries which are still reporting issues I've not had with F4. I suspect that SO will be a more complex library than F4 for all it's MIDI controller and patching necessities.
How well this will work on PPC and Intel remains to be seen for numerous reasons.:
First-- this is a point zero release and there will be a teething period before expected kinks will be ironed out.
Second-- SO is just going to be different from the other libraries because it's an orchestra and not just a a rhythm section with some strings or brass. If you're running a full orchestra cinematic style, the demands will be great no matter what computer you are using. EW is still talking about using SO on multiple computers even with PLAY on Intel, although the days of 8 machines under the NI engine may be a thing of the past at this point. 2-3 machines, maybe.... but it makes me wonder just how much one can get loaded on G5s and even the 2007 Intels.
I upgraded to Platinum Pro, and while one is allegedly able to work with the "gold" version inside of it to save resources, they say that the same controller and note data can be easily swapped over to the triple-mic samples. This has got to challenge the resources where 3 times the samples will have to be used.
For general PLAY/PPC compatibility I am collecting notes and will post my findings. But I think we're all in the dark about SO's specific concerns under PLAY. Some things will be bugs resolved by fixes, but I suspect that other things will just be quirks to look out for and to avoid.
Honestly? I'm praying for a pleasant surprise.
