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key follow with machfive2
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:46 pm
by geoffg
Is there an easy way to get the filters in machfive to modulate precisely with the MIDI keys? In Nanosampler, this is so easy. Set key follow to 100%, and it works perfectly. But in machfive, you assign key follow as a modulation source for the filter, and it defaults to 100, but doesn't track the keys evenly. 100 seems to over-follow the keys or something. Maybe there's a magic number in there that is the equivalent of the 100% in nanosampler?
P.S. Nanosampler cool. (So is machfive 2, but nanosampler is so beautifully simple.)

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:12 am
by 3over3
Unfortunately, I'm not near the marvel of M5v2 at the moment, but if it was me, I'd:
- Turn the keygroup amplifier volume down (but not fully)
- Turn the filter resonance up fully (hence turning the volume down)
- Make sure nothing else is modulating the cutoff (like envelope, LFO, etc)
- Experiment with the filter type until this produces a clear tone around the cutoff frequency when you play a note (maybe use constant pitch, too)
- "Play" the resonance using the keyboard filter tracking
- "Tune" the mod amount by ear until it's good enough for you
- Notice if this is close to any mathematically useful numbers (decimal - 50, 75, 90, etc; binary - 64, 96, etc; other useful ratios - 66 or 67, 80 etc) as these may well be the "true" unity tracking value
It'd be nice if it was just
easy though, wouldn't it?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:02 pm
by 3over3
Aha! After a bit of playing...
It's not "Keyfollow" you need - it's "Key" under External Sources in the modulation/automations dialogue. Set this to 1.00 and you're away. "Keyfollow" itself seems to be non-linear and a setting of 0.25 gave me one workable octave (C2-C3).
Page 138 of the manual shows the External Sources list incorrectly (Fig 8-101) so presumably "Key" is a bugfix of sorts - though the questions remain; what the hell is "Keyfollow" and why can't you select "Key" via the quick automation control next to the filter?
Anyone still using v2.00? Do you have this option?
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:18 pm
by geoffg
Thanks for the info. I'll try Key instead of key follow.