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Sticky Suggestion - Basic Concepts and Terminology

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:23 am
by monkey man
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This could be a real time-saver and equaliser.

Some (or one) of you theory-heads could cook up a glossary that'd serve both as a conceptual introduction to the nature of the forum's discussions, as well as a known quantity to which numb-skulls such as that monkey man could be referred in the event they're not speaking the same language as the rest of us, er, you.

Poo is flung. Will it stick? :?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:56 am
by FMiguelez
Monkey Man wrote:Poo is flung. Will it stick?
Well, it's slowly sliding down. Does that count? :lol:

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:58 am
by FMiguelez
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Nah. Seriously. Yeah, it sounds like a good idea.
But what kind of glossary do you have in mind, like a basic music theory terminology thing? Or more like an intro sticky?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:45 pm
by monkey man
FMiguelez wrote:
Monkey Man wrote:Poo is flung. Will it stick?
Well, it's slowly sliding down. Does that count? :lol:
Dang, I knew I should've eaten more fibre.
Blame the banana wine; it's lethal, at least to the stomach. :lol:
FMiguelez wrote:.
Nah. Seriously. Yeah, it sounds like a good idea.
But what kind of glossary do you have in mind, like a basic music theory terminology thing? Or more like an intro sticky?
Both, but most importantly a quick-reference chart explaining the staves, meter (including how, say, an 8th note relates to ticks at 480ppq in DP) and possibly... hang on, I've absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.
See? We sure do need a glossary of terms or the like, IMHO. :D

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:12 pm
by npatton
Wow! When you start thinking about it, that might be a HUUUUGE topic to try and cover here. Perhaps some recommendations of books might be more efficient. Is there a website out there that covers this stuff that we could post a link to?

MLC was right that this stuff is much better taught one-on-one than in a text, and I'm not sure anyone has the time to post a treatise on fundamentals of music theory here (at least I don't). (Imagine a sticky explaining the basics of MIDI and digital audio recording at the top of the DP Forum... :shock: )

My guess would be that if an explanation isn't clear to someone here, they will need to ask for clarification in a reply, just like in the other forums. I'm pretty sure that if someone is asking the question, they'll probably do all right with 95% of the answers they get.

$.02 worth

:D

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:47 pm
by cuttime
I would love to try, but I don't think it can be done. Example:

What is a Scale? A succession of notes.

Good books IMHO:

"Techniques and Materials of Tonal Music" (Good Cliff Note Overview, and good reference for brushing up... Benjamin, Horvit, Nelson)

"The Acoustical Foundations of Music" (John Backus)

"Piano Tuning and the Allied Arts"(William White; GREAT BOOK, long out of print, but if you can locate one it is worth whatever price you pay).

"Harmony" (Piston)

"My Scale Book" (David Hirschberg; no, don't want to insult anyone, but keep it on hand).

"The Well-Tempered Clavier" (Books 1 & 2 by J.S Bach, after you learn the scales, check these out and then you will give up music forever (NOT).

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:12 am
by monkey man
npatton wrote:My guess would be that if an explanation isn't clear to someone here, they will need to ask for clarification in a reply, just like in the other forums. I'm pretty sure that if someone is asking the question, they'll probably do all right with 95% of the answers they get.
I agree, npatton.

I was thinking about the countless others who'll be reading these threads.
Just a quick-reference glossary of terms would certainly be helpful to some.

Re: Sticky Suggestion - Basic Concepts and Terminology

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:04 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
monkey man wrote:`
This could be a real time-saver and equaliser.

Some (or one) of you theory-heads could cook up a glossary...
Why reinvent the wheel? Dolmetsch Online is already a great online resource.

You want theory?

http://www.dolmetsch.com/theoryintro.htm

http://www.dolmetsch.com/theoryindex.htm

You'll also find a great resource for instrumentation and orchestration. It won't substitute actual study and practice, but it will give you just about everything else you need to know on a basic level.

BTW, if you are really serious about learning theory and you cannot rattle off the key signatures for every major and minor key (with the sharps and flats in the correct order) that is a great place to start. MEMORIZE THEM!

You might want to memorize the circle of 5ths first (that has nothing to do with whisky...)

http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory9.htm#circlefifths

Re: Sticky Suggestion - Basic Concepts and Terminology

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:13 am
by monkey man
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:You might want to memorize the circle of 5ths first (that has nothing to do with whisky...)
Thank you, Magilla.

I'll start mesmerizing them now. :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:17 am
by monkey man
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OK, I think I'll just watch ya'll and fling the odd bit of poo.

Too easily mesmerized; seems to be a life-long block. :cry:

Re: Sticky Suggestion - Basic Concepts and Terminology

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:39 am
by npatton
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Why reinvent the wheel? Dolmetsch Online is already a great online resource.
Excellent! Just what I was thinking of. Everything (and more) is there.

Thanks, MLC!
:D

Re: Sticky Suggestion - Basic Concepts and Terminology

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:47 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
npatton wrote:
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Why reinvent the wheel? Dolmetsch Online is already a great online resource.
Excellent! Just what I was thinking of. Everything (and more) is there.

Thanks, MLC!
:D
Cool! I'm glad SOMEONE got something out of it. I've PDF'ed the instrumentation (range) page for fast reference when orchestrating. But the site is really quite extensive. There are a few more good ones online. Google is your friend. The only one I would warn against is Wikipedia as the contributions can be made by anyone. In general, it is a pretty good resource, but I wouldn't take everything in there at face value.