Sync Probs with more MOTUs

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Sync Probs with more MOTUs

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Hi, I‘m really new here and from germany. I hope that someone can help me with my problems:

I bought 3x MOTU 896 (not HD) and one Traveler. Also I bought one RME Octamic. Follow connections are done: Traveler (master) and one 896 on FW Port 1 and two 896 one Port 2 of my Firewire card. The RME Octamic is connected via AES on each MOTU to get 8 more Mic Preamps. Sync via Firewire (AES on RME Octamic).

Now I record on 48khz/24bit and all works fine. But when I change to 96khz, I got sync Probs and Nuendo 3 crashes with a error message.

How can I disslove this problem? Motu don‘t answer me with a good advice.

Here is my config:
- Dual Opteron Dualcore on ASUS board
- Firewirecard (Texas Instr.Chipset)
- Windows XP Prof. SP2 (with RME‘s SP2 Fix, ‘cause SP2 FW drivers are bugy)
- newest motu drivers and firmware
- 3 MOTU 896, 1 Traveler

THX for your help...
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no help?

the motu support told me, I must install a texas instruments card, but I have still this problem, that nuendo 3.2/wavelab 5 crashes with ASIO error!
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Post by srslab »

It took me several months of research and testing to have both of my motus work at the same time. I'm presently back to square one after reinstalling most of my studio equipment. They both show up however I can never get them the sync over firewire as the master takes priority and the slave doesn't appear to be able to sync.

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I tried to sync each other with wordclock cables, but they still get sync from firewire. I tried also to disconnect the traveler and set this one as clock source. But in a daisy chain config it won‘t run. I won‘t buy one expensive Clockgenerator when it won‘t run after connect.

So, it must be possible to run all four MOTUs via firewire. Think Motu should update their driver, firmware or something else!!!
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Post by Mandrak »

Hi,
it is written in the 896's user guide : with more than 2 896, you need TWO firewire cards to get the sync at 96 :wink: and not two firewire busses on the same card.
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I know - I installed two Firewire cards with TI-Chips but it won‘t work!
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Today I get this fw-card:

http://www.ioi.com.tw/products/proddeta ... ID=1060001

This card has two Texas Instr. chips. But it still won‘t work. The problem is, that the motus sync each other via firewire. When I connect all via Wordclock cables it won‘t sync via wordclock!!!

What‘s up with windows/MOTU?
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Post by Mandrak »

Take a look there : http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... highlight=

I've already tried a TI chipset firewire card which did not work at all.
I really had lot of sync problem under XP sp2 . I think you should try WIN2000.
My set up works really fine at 96Khz too !

And there too, where baptiste gives good informations :
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... highlight=
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THX for support...

I reinstall Windows XP SP1, ‘cause this SP1 has less bugs as SP2. You wrote me that I should install Win2000 Prof? Hmm??? My next step is Vista 64bit, but not back to Win2000. I know that this is more stable as XP, but I‘ve install all my plugs and libraries at XP. So I‘ll spent about 2 days to reinstall.

Someone tried win2000 with 3-4 MOTU‘s at 96khz?
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Post by Mandrak »

You're right : go to Vista as Motu developped new drivers !
I've always been working under WIN2000 PRO and I really think it is not obsolete today as everything works really fine !

Tell us when your system goes right under vista, thanks :wink:

Good luck, I think I can't help you anymore :!:
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Mandrak wrote:Take a look there : http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... highlight=

I've already tried a TI chipset firewire card which did not work at all.
I really had lot of sync problem under XP sp2 . I think you should try WIN2000.
My set up works really fine at 96Khz too !

And there too, where baptiste gives good informations :
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... highlight=
OK, I‘ve tested several things on weekend:
I installed Win2000 with SP4, but I‘ve one big Problem: Nuendo 3 won‘t run on Windows 2000! It will need XP!

Someone tried some tests with Windows Vista?
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Next test: I installed the Firewire Card in a system with vista ultimate 32bit. VISTA crashed by installing all four MOTUs.
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:lol: Ha ha ha !

Oups, sorry :wink:
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Post by Sickculture »

OK,
three MOTU 896 in daisy chain works at 88,2khz on one bus. The fourth MOTU traveler on last position and on a separate bus won‘t run with the others. Clock comes from 896#1. So the system is limited for three interfaces maximum without ADAT.

Other question: I read something about that it‘s better to clock via external Clock like Apogee Big Ben and firewire has more Jitter faults as Wordclock.
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Sickculture wrote:OK,
three MOTU 896 in daisy chain works at 88,2khz on one bus. The fourth MOTU traveler on last position and on a separate bus won‘t run with the others. Clock comes from 896#1. So the system is limited for three interfaces maximum without ADAT.

Other question: I read something about that it‘s better to clock via external Clock like Apogee Big Ben and firewire has more Jitter faults as Wordclock.
Does the traveler work when you chain only 2 896's?
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