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PT to DP switch. Slow User Intrface DP question

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Hi all! I PT user and for a long time reading this forum. Recently, I think switch PT to DP. In a small CPU utilization UI-down indicators mixer very slow and not real time and, in general, all such strange. tell it properly? The PT latency UI not.
Thnx for any post
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I don't think you should be here until it's paid for
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sdfalk wrote:I don't think you should be here until it's paid for
Good ol' gutsy Falkster.

L2A, more information and less syntax error may help us help you.
Equipment details in your "signature" are likely to enhance your cause.
Profile information may even help others get a handle on who they're dealing with and the context in which DP and your hardware are being used.

When I clicked your profile button, I got:

All about L2A:




Knickers, Nicky got nicks; now he's knickered, er, knackered. :lol:

In short: More information, please. :wink:
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Post by emulatorloo »

Like monkeyman says we need more info.

You probably don't have it configured right.

Did you read the getting started manual? (a tip o the hat, SD)

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Warning: This is just a test. Deemed safe by the Department of, well, Safety. :lol:
emulatorloo wrote:... Did you read the getting started manual? (a tip o the hat, SD)--
Or the DP PDF Manual v1.1? (A tip o' the hat, SD and Toilet-boy).
Doh, how many's that I owe ya, Greg?

A keg should still cover it, right? :lol:

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My mac G5 1.6
OSX 10.4.8
AudioInterface DIGI001 & PT
sorry guys for my bad english
but i not understand - why UI PT work no latency
UI DP after CPU usage30-40% slowly and have latency
understand me?
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L2A wrote:My mac G5 1.6
OSX 10.4.8
AudioInterface DIGI001 & PT
sorry guys for my bad english
but i not understand - why UI PT work no latency
UI DP after CPU usage30-40% slowly and have latency
understand me?
Which version of DP? 4? 5?

DIGI 001 limited to 512 buffer -- this is fault of DIGIDESIGN Core audio driver. ****Digidesign**** does not allow you to set lower.

(Note that you set digi buffer in in the "Digi Coreaudio Manager" (inside your "Applications" folder, inside the "Digidesign" folder)

However I am able to work ok with digidesign if need be. So I think other things are wrong on your setup.

Things you are describing about non real time interface suggest that something else is wrong.

Did you read "Getting Started" manual re set up?

Did you do tutorials in "Getting Started" Manual?
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Re: PT to DP switch. Slow User Intrface DP question

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L2A wrote:Hi all! I PT user and for a long time reading this forum. Recently, I think switch PT to DP. In a small CPU utilization UI-down indicators mixer very slow and not real time and, in general, all such strange. tell it properly? The PT latency UI not.
Thnx for any post
If you are using a "small" CPU, which I interpret to mean "not very powerful," then DP makes screen redraw and interface update a LOW priority. It devotes all necessary resources to your audio. This is necessary in a native environment to preserve the essentials (audio and MIDI) while prioritizing whatever CPU power is left over and distributing it to other tasks that are not as important.

Pro Tools will run on a less-powerful Mac, because the real number crunching is done by its render farm -- the many co-processors on its external boards. That means the Mac is free to draw the user interface.

If you want more responsive faders, there are things you can do (including getting a faster Mac), but it's a gradual learning process. We cannot tell you just exactly how to best configure your Mac and DP. You learn that over time by doing it and asking questions as you go. Also -- and primarily -- by reading the manual. Very few questions get answered around here which could not be found in the manual if someone bothered to look. But once you get familiar with the manual and share your own tips, we all are pretty free with our help.

Forgive my friends and myself for being a little reluctant to answer. We have to be careful when answering newbie questions to be sure that we are not enabling software pirates. Once it is clear that you own your copy (tell us something about your manual which shows you have one) everyone will lighten up a bit.

But I have at least answered your question about latency. I can tell you this: my Mac is slower than yours, but I experience very little latency in my user interface. Some, but not enough to hurt anything.

If you want to read about it, go to the section in the manual called " Mixing." In my manual, that's chapter 57. On the first page of that section, there's a mini-index which has a line: "Mixing in real time." The page number in my manual is 707. now, turn over another page or two, and you'll see a section subtitled: "The impact of mixing and bussing on MOTU Audio System Resources." It will explain this very well.

Finally, the #1 thing you can do to help your sluggishness is upgrade to DP 5.11, if you are not already using it. It has much more speed than any of its predecessors.

I hope this helped,

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thnx a lot! Shooshie for this answer!
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Unless I am imagining things, the original post by L2A said that he "downloaded" a version of DP5, this original post was then edited. How do you expect him to read the manual on a downloaded version?, and how does he expect to get help from this community under those conditions?
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I guess he edited that. I missed it. Of course, I'll give him the remote possibility that in his poor english he meant to say "installed," but he's going to have to read us a few pages from the manual before anyone's going to help him more.

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He said he downloaded it..plain and simple.
I do some sound design/video editing/music
for local video/film/music productions.
I work my ASS off.
I own my software.
No more "there's no DP demo waaaaa, no this demo
no that demo...
It pisses me off when I read •••• like.."well Im gonna download
it and try it first."
I went to a store, got them CONVINCED THEM to install it,
and then to piss off and let me play for an hour.
I then purchased DP.
Simple Right?
..and like he's hit some morale high ground by admitting
on a public forum that he downloaded the software first???
AHHHHHHHH!
Anyway...I feel a bit better :D
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sdfalk wrote:..and like he's hit some morale high ground by admitting
on a public forum that he downloaded the software first???
AHHHHHHHH!
Anyway...I feel a bit better :D
Maybe James will see and take appropriate action. It is irritating as hell.
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