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Just a warning:

I purchased MSI a few weeks ago, very excited to get one of the few VI's available for the MacIntels.

To my deep disappointment, MSI makes Logic extremely unstable. I haven't been able to pinpoint an exact cause for the instability yet, nor has MOTU tech support. All I know is that almost every time I use MSI, I get a crash -- not only Logic crashes, but very often the entire computer locks up, and I have to press and hold the power button.

So, my new 20" iMac Intel has crashed probably two dozen times or more last week, and every single time it was when I was either tracking, or just listening back to tracks that had an MSI instrument in one of the tracks.

(Btw, not that crashes are cool, but what OSX Tiger does in a crash is kind of cool. What looks like a grey filter drops down from the top of the screen to the bottom, with the instructions that the computer has crashed and I need to press and hold the power button until it restarts. Kind of cool visuals, compared to what usually happens, which is nothing.)

Anyway, I'm still working with tech support, but I wanted to give you all a heads up just in case you're thinking of purchasing MSI. If you are, DON'T! At least not until we figure out what's causing the problem.

Although, I'm about to ask for my $300 back, I'm so frustrated. It's such a waste of money.


P.S. The crashes have to be MSI-based, rather than some other problem. If I have a session that crashes a lot, the best way to get it to stop crashing is to change the instruments from MSI patches to EXSPmkII patches. It works every time. Changing to EXSPmkII patches restores the stability, and I can work for hours on the file with no more problems.

I can't nail down just one problematic MSI patch, either. It seems like it crashes no matter what MSI patch I put on an instrument track.

I hope this helps someone avoid the headaches I've been having.

What you describe is not a crash but a Core Dump: the whole system going down. It is much much worse. The cause is most likely related to a driver problem. If MSI seems the cause of it then I suggest trying to install the latest PACE iLok drivers as a start: http://www.paceap.com/dldrvr.html

Does the system console gives any info about the crash?

meeloo wrote:What you describe is not a crash but a Core Dump: the whole system going down. It is much much worse. The cause is most likely related to a driver problem. If MSI seems the cause of it then I suggest trying to install the latest PACE iLok drivers as a start: http://www.paceap.com/dldrvr.html

Does the system console gives any info about the crash?

Yes the system console does give a lot of info -- however, I can't read any of it. When I read the crash log, it's entirely foreign to me.

Most of the time it says something along the lines of "Thread 0 Crashed:" Followed by a "0 com.motu.mvo ....", 1 com.motu.mvo....", 2 com.motu.mvo...." with lots of code that I don't understand at all.

So a Core Dump is much worse than a crash, eh? I'm sure I'm using the terms wrong, then. All I know is that I keep having to reboot my computer.

Thanks for the link to iLok. I'll try that, and see if it helps.

kevinmathie wrote: Yes the system console does give a lot of info -- however, I can't read any of it. When I read the crash log, it's entirely foreign to me.

Most of the time it says something along the lines of "Thread 0 Crashed:" Followed by a "0 com.motu.mvo ....", 1 com.motu.mvo....", 2 com.motu.mvo...." with lots of code that I don't understand at all.

So a Core Dump is much worse than a crash, eh? I'm sure I'm using the terms wrong, then. All I know is that I keep having to reboot my computer.

Thanks for the link to iLok. I'll try that, and see if it helps.

Could you copy and paste the crash log here? (particularly the line where it says "Thread xxx crashed:" and the line begining with com.motu.mvo that follows the crash? Thanks

meeloo

meeloo wrote:Could you copy and paste the crash log here? (particularly the line where it says "Thread xxx crashed:" and the line begining with com.motu.mvo that follows the crash? Thanks

meeloo

Sure thing! I'm just ecstatic that I might be able to learn what's happening, even if there isn't a solution right now. Having an email conversation with the MOTU tech folks on this subject is sparse due to the fact that it takes several days for them to get around to answering my emails -- which, btw, is not a slam on them or on MOTU. I'm sure they're swamped right now, and it's not like MSI is probably an incredibly high priority for them. I'd just as soon they get DP Intel-compatible! :)

I'll post the whole log, but I'm not sure if there's a post-length limitation here, so I'll split it up into two posts.

And thank you very much for looking at the info, and helping me at least understand what it's saying:




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Host Name: StudioiMac
Date/Time: 2006-07-01 13:44:08.428 -0600
OS Version: 10.4.7 (Build 8J2135a)
Report Version: 4

Command: Logic Express
Path: /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Express
Parent: WindowServer [63]

Version: 7.2.1 (959.31)
Build Version: 7
Project Name: Logic
Source Version: 9593100

PID: 219
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (0x0002)
Code[0]: 0x0000000d
Code[1]: 0x00000000


Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.motu.mvo 0x178bdb61 uvi::SetTo(float*, float, unsigned) + 33
1 com.motu.mvo 0x179ebdaa uvi::MultiEnvelope::Fill(uvi::RenderContext*, uvi::VoiceContext*, uvi::MultiEnvelopeVoiceContext*, float*&, unsigned long) + 340
2 com.motu.mvo 0x179ec7ac uvi::MultiEnvelope::FillControlBuffers(uvi::RenderContext*, uvi::VoiceContext*) + 268
3 com.motu.mvo 0x179ef747 uvi::AHDSR::FillControlBuffers(uvi::RenderContext*, uvi::VoiceContext*) + 207
4 com.motu.mvo 0x178a004e uvi::ControlSignalDestination::FillControlBuffer(uvi::RenderContext*, uvi::RenderVoice*, float*) + 1094
5 com.motu.mvo 0x178a0a67 uvi::ControlSignalDestination::FillControlBuffer(uvi::RenderContext*, uvi::RenderVoice*) + 39
6 com.motu.mvo 0x177d7054 uvi::Keygroup::ProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 932
7 com.motu.mvo 0x17754348 uvi::RenderNode::InternalProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 338
8 com.motu.mvo 0x178a30e8 uvi::Layer::ProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 1520
9 com.motu.mvo 0x17754348 uvi::RenderNode::InternalProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 338
10 com.motu.mvo 0x17754602 uvi::RenderNode::ProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 66
11 com.motu.mvo 0x17754348 uvi::RenderNode::InternalProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 338
12 com.motu.mvo 0x17779a23 uvi::Part::ProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 255
13 com.motu.mvo 0x17754348 uvi::RenderNode::InternalProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 338
14 com.motu.mvo 0x17754602 uvi::RenderNode::ProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 66
15 com.motu.mvo 0x17754348 uvi::RenderNode::InternalProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 338
16 com.motu.mvo 0x17754602 uvi::RenderNode::ProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 66
17 com.motu.mvo 0x17754348 uvi::RenderNode::InternalProcessAudio(uvi::RenderContext*) + 338
18 com.motu.mvo 0x17702b23 mvo::Transform::ProcessInPlace(DSP::BufferSet&) + 1085
19 com.motu.mvo 0x1771e197 PluginCore::processBuffer(CoreProcessBuffer*) + 269
20 com.motu.msi 0x16706fe1 PluginHook::processInPlace(DSP::BufferSet&) + 531
21 com.motu.msi 0x16720dd6 AUPlugin<MusicDeviceBase>::Render(unsigned long&, AudioTimeStamp const&, unsigned long) + 1098
22 com.motu.msi 0x167113de AUBase::DoRender(unsigned long&, AudioTimeStamp const&, unsigned long, unsigned long, AudioBufferList&) + 730
23 com.motu.msi 0x16715220 AUBase::ComponentEntryDispatch(ComponentParameters*, AUBase*) + 410
24 com.motu.msi 0x16708c8e AUView::CreateUI(float, float) + 626
25 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cc1508 CallComponentDispatch + 34
26 ...apple.audio.units.AudioUnit 0x93f5ad62 AudioUnitRender + 67
27 com.apple.logic.express 0x003274ea 0x1000 + 3302634
28 com.apple.logic.express 0x000c6380 0x1000 + 807808
29 com.apple.logic.express 0x000c7726 0x1000 + 812838
30 com.apple.logic.express 0x000c7d7c 0x1000 + 814460
31 com.apple.logic.express 0x000cbf21 0x1000 + 831265
32 com.apple.logic.express 0x000cc893 0x1000 + 833683
33 com.apple.logic.express 0x00042029 0x1000 + 266281
34 com.apple.logic.express 0x0007717f 0x1000 + 483711
35 com.apple.logic.express 0x0021d6d6 0x1000 + 2213590
36 com.apple.logic.express 0x0005b3b7 0x1000 + 369591
37 com.apple.logic.express 0x0005c35a 0x1000 + 373594
38 com.apple.logic.express 0x0005c5a5 0x1000 + 374181
39 com.apple.logic.express 0x002fab12 0x1000 + 3119890
40 com.apple.logic.express 0x00302c1d 0x1000 + 3152925
41 com.apple.logic.express 0x00302ec6 0x1000 + 3153606
42 com.apple.logic.express 0x00303035 0x1000 + 3153973
43 com.apple.logic.express 0x00149696 0x1000 + 1345174
44 com.apple.logic.express 0x003025a7 0x1000 + 3151271
45 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f017eb DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1093
46 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f00e90 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 304
47 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f080f0 SendEventToEventTarget + 56
48 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f88655 SendHICommandEvent(unsigned long, HICommand const*, unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned char, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, OpaqueEventRef**) + 405
49 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92fbc25e ProcessHICommandWithContextAndModifiers + 60
50 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92fbc214 SendMenuItemSelectedEvent + 128
51 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92fbc128 FinishMenuSelection(MenuData*, MenuData*, MenuResult*, MenuResult*, unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned char) + 122
52 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92fa1033 MenuSelectCore(MenuData*, Point, double, unsigned long, OpaqueMenuRef**, unsigned short*) + 515
53 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92fa0af4 MenuSelect + 100
54 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92fa0a64 StandardMenuBarEventHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 104
55 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f017eb DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1093
56 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f00e90 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 304
57 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f080f0 SendEventToEventTarget + 56
58 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f08b12 ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 2586
59 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f01ba2 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 2044
60 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f00e90 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 304
61 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f080f0 SendEventToEventTarget + 56
62 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f4bd8f ToolboxEventDispatcher + 81
63 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92f4a783 RunApplicationEventLoop + 165
64 com.apple.logic.express 0x0013def5 0x1000 + 1298165
65 com.apple.logic.express 0x000fece5 0x1000 + 1039589
66 com.apple.logic.express 0x00002bde 0x1000 + 7134
67 com.apple.logic.express 0x00002af9 0x1000 + 6905

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000a5c7 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082369a CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90822eb5 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914588da HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 158
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914586f5 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 93
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900251a7 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.logic.express 0x003c4e02 0x1000 + 3948034
2 com.apple.logic.express 0x003c4ebf 0x1000 + 3948223
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900251a7 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.logic.express 0x003c4e02 0x1000 + 3948034
2 com.apple.logic.express 0x003c4ebf 0x1000 + 3948223
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900251a7 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.logic.express 0x003c10f2 0x1000 + 3932402
2 com.apple.logic.express 0x003c11af 0x1000 + 3932591
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900251a7 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.logic.express 0x003c10f2 0x1000 + 3932402
2 com.apple.logic.express 0x003c11af 0x1000 + 3932591
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900492e7 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91465a10 CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 212
2 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91465932 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 66
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914643a2 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 690
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914640e9 HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914586f5 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 93
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900251a7 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.logic.express 0x000cb097 0x1000 + 827543
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900251a7 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.logic.express 0x000ca01b 0x1000 + 823323
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900492e7 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 7
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cd2b14 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 163
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cd9ab1 TimerThread + 87
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 10:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000a5c7 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.audio.MIDI.CoreMIDI 0x96130adf XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101
2 com.apple.audio.MIDI.CoreMIDI 0x9612903b MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 113
3 com.apple.audio.MIDI.CoreMIDI 0x96129d1b XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
4 com.apple.audio.MIDI.CoreMIDI 0x96131617 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 93
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 11:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900251a7 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.motu.mvo 0x178aaaed uvi::SyncEvent::Wait(unsigned long) + 287
2 com.motu.mvo 0x1775a119 uvi::ThreadPool::Do() + 35
3 com.motu.mvo 0x178aa591 uvi::Mutex::GetHandle() + 53
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 12:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90037ee7 mach_wait_until + 7
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9003a652 usleep + 82
2 com.motu.mvo 0x178aa7a7 uvi::Thread::MsSleep(unsigned long) + 29
3 com.motu.mvo 0x17768a1d uvi::StreamingEngine::OnStart() + 361
4 com.motu.mvo 0x178aa591 uvi::Mutex::GetHandle() + 53
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 13:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900251a7 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.motu.mvo 0x178aaaed uvi::SyncEvent::Wait(unsigned long) + 287
2 com.motu.mvo 0x1775a119 uvi::ThreadPool::Do() + 35
3 com.motu.mvo 0x178aa591 uvi::Mutex::GetHandle() + 53
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 14:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9003fb1f syscall_thread_switch + 7
1 com.apple.AppKit 0x9345a772 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 1399
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x927291b0 forkThreadForFunction + 123
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 15:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002763c kevent + 12
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90ca9ae4 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 51
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 16:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900251a7 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90ca9c8a MPWaitOnQueue + 198
2 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x9264ef3f TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 143
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90ca9ae4 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 51
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 17:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002521f semaphore_wait_trap + 7
1 com.apple.logic.express 0x000d051c 0x1000 + 849180
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024b07 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 0 crashed with i386 Thread State:
eax: 0x16cfb3e8 ebx: 0x179ebc67 ecx:0x0000000b edx: 0xbfffc6bc
edi: 0x000000f6 esi: 0x16cfb3e8 ebp:0xbfffc5a8 esp: 0xbfffc5a4
ss: 0x0000002f efl: 0x00010202 eip:0x178bdb61 cs: 0x00000027
ds: 0x0000002f es: 0x0000002f fs:0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

And here's the continuation of the same log...

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Binary Images Description:
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0x1808000 - 0x1860fff com.apple.LogicLoopBrowser 7.2 (16.3) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/Frameworks/LogicLoopBrowser.framework/Versions/A/LogicLoopBrowser
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0xec6d000 - 0xec6ffff com.apple.gal_emx 1.0 (15) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/Resources/emx.res/Contents/MacOS/emx
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0x162cf000 - 0x162d6fff com.apple.iokit.IOUSBLib 2.5.0 /System/Library/Extensions/IOUSBFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOUSBLib.bundle/Contents/MacOS/IOUSBLib
0x1655e000 - 0x16577fff com.apple.AppleIntermediateCodec 1.1 (141) /Library/QuickTime/AppleIntermediateCodec.component/Contents/MacOS/AppleIntermediateCodec
0x1657c000 - 0x16595fff com.apple.applepixletvideo 1.2.9 (1.2d9) /System/Library/QuickTime/ApplePixletVideo.component/Contents/MacOS/ApplePixletVideo
0x16705000 - 0x16732fff com.motu.msi 1.1.2 /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/MSI.component/Contents/MacOS/PluginHooksAU
0x176fe000 - 0x17de5fff com.motu.mvo 1.1.1 /Library/application Support/MOTU/MSI/MSI.bundle/Contents/MacOS/MSI
0x1e472000 - 0x1e474fff com.apple.MIDIDevicePlugIn.CS-32 1.0 (9) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/MIDI Device Plug-ins/CS-32.bundle/Contents/MacOS/CS-32
0x1e480000 - 0x1e483fff com.apple.MIDIDevicePlugIn.FW-1884 1.0 (9) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/MIDI Device Plug-ins/FW-1884.bundle/Contents/MacOS/FW-1884
0x1e49a000 - 0x1e49bfff com.apple.MIDIDevicePlugIn.iControl 1.0.1 (9.10) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/MIDI Device Plug-ins/iControl.bundle/Contents/MacOS/iControl
0x1e4a6000 - 0x1e4acfff com.apple.MIDIDevicePlugIn.Logic Control 1.0.1 (9.10) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/MIDI Device Plug-ins/Logic Control.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Logic Control
0x1e4e6000 - 0x1e4e8fff com.apple.MIDIDevicePlugIn.microKONTROL 1.0 (9) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/MIDI Device Plug-ins/microKONTROL.bundle/Contents/MacOS/microKONTROL
0x1e4f6000 - 0x1e4f8fff com.apple.MIDIDevicePlugIn.TranzPort 1.0 (9) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/MIDI Device Plug-ins/TranzPort.bundle/Contents/MacOS/TranzPort
0x1e502000 - 0x1e504fff com.apple.MIDIDevicePlugIn.US-2400 1.0 (9) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/MIDI Device Plug-ins/US-2400.bundle/Contents/MacOS/US-2400
0x1e50f000 - 0x1e510fff com.apple.MIDIDevicePlugIn.US-428 1.0 (9) /Applications/Logic Express.app/Contents/MIDI Device Plug-ins/US-428.bundle/Contents/MacOS/US-428
0x8fd50000 - 0x8fd8bfff com.apple.QuickTimeFireWireDV.component 7.1.2 /System/Library/QuickTime/QuickTimeFireWireDV.component/Contents/MacOS/QuickTimeFireWireDV
0x8fe00000 - 0x8fe4bfff dyld 45.1 /usr/lib/dyld
0x90000000 - 0x9016efff libSystem.B.dylib /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
0x901be000 - 0x901c0fff libmathCommon.A.dylib /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib
0x901c2000 - 0x901fefff com.apple.CoreText 1.1.1 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText
0x90225000 - 0x902fafff ATS /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Versions/A/ATS
0x9031a000 - 0x9076afff com.apple.CoreGraphics 1.258.33 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics
0x90801000 - 0x908c9fff com.apple.CoreFoundation 6.4.6 (368.27) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
0x90907000 - 0x90907fff com.apple.CoreServices 10.4 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices
0x90909000 - 0x909fcfff libicucore.A.dylib /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
0x90a4c000 - 0x90acbfff libobjc.A.dylib /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
0x90af4000 - 0x90b57fff libstdc++.6.dylib /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib
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Just wanted to let you know the latest on my MSI problem.

Last week, I ended up taking off all instances of MSI on all the cues I'm working on. I'm under an extreme deadline (doing two all-nighters this weekend), and so I just couldn't deal with the instability that MSI seemed to be causing.

However, what was incredibly maddening to me was that even though I wasn't using MSI, my whole computer would shut down about 6 to 8 times a day -- about once every 1.5 to 2 hours. It usually happened after I built up about 8 or 9 different tracks -- which, for an orchestral score, is nothing. Every single day the computer crashed on a regular basis all day long.

I was just about ready to pull out my Dad's PC running Windows 98 to see if that would be more stable.

Finally, I was told by someone over on one of the Apple forums that I ought to uncheck my 3rd-party plug-ins from the AU Manager. Being somewhat new to VI's I didn't realize that this was an option.

So, the only plug-in I disabled was MOTU's Symphonic Instrument, and voila!, I worked an all-nighter last night, and have been working all day today (trying to meet a deadline an hour ago) with not one crash!

It was so nice! It almost made the all-nighter worth it.

So, now I'm going to report what I did to MOTU and see if they can figure out what was wrong to begin with. But, at least I seem to have definitely narrowed the problem down to something dealing with MSI.

I'll keep you all updated, just in case there's someone else that's running into MSI problems on their MacIntel.

I'm running MSI with both Logic 7.2 & DP 5.0.1 and it runs great on both systems. I'm running it on a G5 Dual 2.5 with 2.5GB RAM and 10.4.7. I'm not sure how well it does on intel based Macs.

Rob Barone
Mac Pro AV & Consulting
macproav@mac.com

Since I last posted, I disabled MSI, and sort of forgot about it -- chagrined that I'd spent that much money for something that wasn't working for me.

I was telling a friend about it a couple days ago, and he suggested repairing my disk permissions. I didn't even know what he was talking about, and he had to explain to me how to do it.

But, I did it, and so far I've been using MSI for two days with no crashes!

So, maybe that's my answer! At least I'm crossing my fingers that it is. It seems like such a simple answer to a problem that caused me so much stress.

kevinmathie wrote:But, I did it, and so far I've been using MSI for two days with no crashes!

Oops! Nope. Never mind. I just got a crash like I used to. *sigh*