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motu needs internal ASIO patching !

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:55 pm
by lovefreq
hello I used EMU patchmix software today ! Its totally cool!

I really beleive MOTU should take a look at this and copy them!

You can route and mix anything ! such as stand alone (non rewire) soft synths and dj software directly into cubase whilst using the ins and outs of the sound card!

MOTU is totally limited from what i can gather!

for example to route non rewire software into cubase using a MOTU you have to send the signals out of the interface and back in (hard wire) to get audio into cubase! thats nuts!!! with EMU Patchmix you can just route it directly!

I can't be the only person that needs this flexability!!!

Im on the verge of switching to EMU ....but i will miss the expandabilty of the MOTU interface!

peace
lfX

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:16 pm
by sdfalk
Which I believe you can also do very easily with
Jack and a Motu interface, or
Soundflower from Cycling74.com and a Motu interface.

Jack is located at:
http://www.jackosx.com/

and soundflower at:
http://www.cycling74.com/downloads/soundflower

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:26 am
by lovefreq
those look great ..but damn ..only for a mac.

Seems only EMU can link stand alone soft synths into cubase on windows?

peace.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:54 am
by sdfalk
lovefreq wrote:those look great ..but damn ..only for a mac.

Seems only EMU can link stand alone soft synths into cubase on windows?

peace.
DOH!
Sorry about that
Should have realized you where likely talking windows.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:32 pm
by lovefreq
thanks sdfalk your links helped ive just found ASIO4ALL and 'Virtual audio cable'! :wink:

they patch and route but i get crackels and pops at the moment :cry:
so I shall spend sunday night trying to sort it out :twisted: !

i'll post on here if all go's well! :idea:

lfx :P

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:21 am
by lovefreq
hello i emailed MOTU about patching stand alone software sythns (non rewire/vst) into cubase and got this reply regarding the motu Traveler

ME: hello (blah blahshort intro)

Q:With the E-MU soundcard serise there is a function called Patchmix DSP
> which allows you to route stand alone 'non' vst synths into Nuendo via
> inserts into the patchmixer whist the card is fully connected to nuendo
> and all in's and outs fully functioning.
>
> can the traveler patch and route like the ASIO system E-MU have on
> their
> cards?

MOTU : Yes it can.

ME:
> Is it possible to route stand alone 'non vst' software synths into
> cubase
> using using the travelers in's and outs at the same time?

MOTU: Yes you can do exactly this.
-------

:shock: well flip me i asked so many shops and companies and they all said no!!

I'll have to find a demo somewhere to check it out for myself!


peace
:wink:
LFx

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:48 am
by sdfalk
lovefreq wrote:hello i emailed MOTU about patching stand alone software sythns (non rewire/vst) into cubase and got this reply regarding the motu Traveler

ME: hello (blah blahshort intro)

Q:With the E-MU soundcard serise there is a function called Patchmix DSP
> which allows you to route stand alone 'non' vst synths into Nuendo via
> inserts into the patchmixer whist the card is fully connected to nuendo
> and all in's and outs fully functioning.
>
> can the traveler patch and route like the ASIO system E-MU have on
> their
> cards?

MOTU : Yes it can.

ME:
> Is it possible to route stand alone 'non vst' software synths into
> cubase
> using using the travelers in's and outs at the same time?

MOTU: Yes you can do exactly this.
-------

:shock: well flip me i asked so many shops and companies and they all said no!!

I'll have to find a demo somewhere to check it out for myself!


peace
:wink:
LFx
Glad to hear you worked it out. :D

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:27 pm
by lovefreq
:oops: <<<im gonna be sick! i just got another email reply from MOTU.
hahah gota laugh tho! :lol: (at least i got a reply)

ME:> Dear Sir/Madam, I hope you are well.
>
> I'm looking to purchase a MOTU traveler and have been searching for
> days
> to the answer to this question:
>
> Is it possible to route traktor dj into nuendo using the traveler ins
> and
> outs at the same time?

MOTU *= No. The Traveler drivers are multi-client, but you can only use one driver at a time. Nuendo uses ASIO and as far as I know, Traktor uses WDM drivers. If Traktor could use the ASIO driver then the answer
would be yes, both applications could use the Traveler at the same
time.

ME:> This isnt possible on a 2408mk2 that I currently own.
> (i have to route out of the interface and back in hardwire to make it
> work)

*MOTU= Ah. So Traktor does use the ASIO driver then? In that case, the Traveler will work the same way as the 2408.

The drivers for MOTU interface provide input and output to the
computer. They do not provide an internal patch bay within the
computer.

You may also want to check with Nuendo to see if there is a way to pass
audio between the two appliactions regardless of the audio interface.

If I can be of further service, please let me know.


:shock: what tha!??? I wonder how emu do it?? i used traktor as an example (stand alone synthy type thing) both traktor and steinberg products can use EMU ASIO at the same time!! so they can link up in the software patchbay mix.

awww well i'll stick to hard wiring from the out of the interface and back to the inputs ( latency and waste of in/outs ports tho but it works sort of)

asio4all seems to kill the performance of everything but at least im not the only person trying to get this to work!

toodelypip sorry i couldnt find the answer :roll: ...im sure a few people will find this thread via google or something!

bwwyyeeee
:wink:

thanks again sdfalk!

lovefreQx

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:46 pm
by sdfalk
I have a vauge recollection of an app that's out there that does the same
thing in Windows that Jack/Soundflower does on the Mac.
If I can recall where/what it is, I shall post.