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there s a way to find a soundbite tempo?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:39 am
by Megher
there s a way to find a soundbite tempo?
... the problem is, i have a soundbite, and i need to find it s bpm.. not too difficult...

Re: there s a way to find a soundbite tempo?

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:14 pm
by XYZ
If you just want it in one track or bite, select it, choose "edit in wavform editor", double click or somehow select it, then find the "beats" button, choose "find beats in selection", go back to main menu, Audio/soundbite tempo/analyze soundbite tempo. Go back to waveform and click tempos tab and you will see a running average of your soundbyte tempo.

You can also use it by using markers, which would be faster if you have them already. If not, this may scratch your itch. The other way is to go to project/markers, and then find tempo from the markers. I think 4.6 has improved this--check out the MOTU site. E-mail me back if I can help more.

Re: there s a way to find a soundbite tempo?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:39 am
by mastermix
I used to save the best FAQs in Unicornation;

Here is a simple answer from the past -- if you find the beat detection engine to messy to deal with ;-)

A thread from 2003..

Kris...
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posted October 22, 2003 12:25 PM                      
I am using some loops from the new discrete drums series II. Which is awesome by the way....

Is it possible to change the tempo of a wav file in DP 4.1 ????

Thanks

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posted October 22, 2003 09:00 PM                            
quote:
Is it possible to change the tempo of a wav file in DP 4.1 ????
YES..very easy...and different ways to do this...here is one typical scenario.

Calculating Soundbite Tempo

1. You do not know the tempo of the imported sample or soundbite but you know how many bars (measures) or beats there are...

2. You can calculate the soundbite's tempo by using DP's Set Soundbite Tempo utility by telling DP how many bars are in your sample loop..for example, 2 bars or 8
beats

3. Select (use the mouse to drag/mark the edges) the sample or soundbite in the Sequence or Track Editor..next..select set soundbite tempo and dial in the number of beats (in samples) in the length dialog window --e.g. 8|0|00 for 2 bars.

4. The exact soundbite tempo will be displayed in the set soundbite tempo dialog.

5. You can Adjust Sequence to Soundbite Tempo From Audio Menu -- Neat and Sweet.

Adjust Soundbite to Sequence Tempo

1. Set the Sequence Tempo in DP -- e.g 128 BPM

2. Drag the Soundbite into the Sequence or Track Window.

3. Follow the above steps to calcualte the Soundbite's Tempo.

4. Select Adjust Soundbite to Sequence Tempo from Audio Menu. Again, painless and sweet.

Try the above in ProTools or Logic -- Even with Digi's acclaimed Beat Detective ;-)

Of course, you could use the mouse to eyeball and adjust your beats in DP...but that procedure is not as precise as the methods suggested above...

Kris..

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posted October 24, 2003 11:23 AM                                
great tips..especially when working with perfect loops..

but god forbid you get a loop cd such as the Joey Kramer one or some of the percussion loop CD's that have extra beats. If you don't get your region marked to the SAMPLE, you end up with tempos like 93.42

Makes me really appreciate BT's loop CD's and Stylus a LOT more.

[ October 24, 2003, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: dave gross ]

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posted October 24, 2003 11:29 AM                          
Yeah, I have some cheap-but-good drum loops that always come in a little over (e.g. 120.45 instead of 120)

I'll usually calculate the exact tempo as mastermix said. Once the soundbite has a tempo, I'll set the sequence to the nice even tempo (120) and adjust the soundbite to that.

This keeps things nice and clean: If you're reading 120.45, it really could be 120.4467867978 or some other klutzy number, as you can only read 2 digits. Re-adjusting the soundbite to an even tempo ensures you can keep things in lock-step.

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