Editing Takes ????

[draudio2u]

OK, I have been at this for a while, and do this all the time on other platforms, but this is the first in DP. Once you record multiple takes on a single track of audio, how do you edit together the best parts? Do you do this in a new blank track or can this be done in the original record track? I am pulling my hair out on this one. (not to mention feeling like an idiot as I only been doing this professionally for 15 years on other systems )

Thanks.

[wynsmth]

The way I do it is create a new empty take on the same track, listen to the takes I have, copy and paste the parts I want on the new blank take.

[Shooshie]

There may be easier methods that I don't know about, but my method is to set up a scratch track. In fact, I usually have 3 or 4 scratch tracks for every chunk. Just drag those parts that you like to the scratch track. I use the Tracks Overview for that. Then go to the Sequence Editor to edge edit and apply crossfades, and you're done. You can then either consolidate soundbites and move the whole works to a different track, or you can just rename the track and make a new scratch track for the next one.


Shooshie

[draudio2u]

This is what I found:

If I stay on the same track and go to a take that I want to insert just a section, I can select the section, copy, switch back to the "approved" take and just paste without a cursor. It seems the paste actually keeps timesync from where I took it from. Anyone else working like this? Problems you see with this method?

Cheers.

[draudio2u]

When I insert a different take into another, the underlying is cut away. Then if I remove what I just did, I need to drag the edge back to it's own continued file further down (yeah this is making sense, can we say symantics?).

The other issue, which I always have with DP audio editing anyway, is that if I need to make a change in the middle of a track, and shift the file ever so slightly, the other edit on the other side of the file becomes broken. Is there a way to "lock" all edits so that when you drag a file, all the other files and their edits move with it? (Come to think of it, since I am tracking to time code this time, this isn't such a problem, but it is all the other times I edit....damn.)

Getting late.....

[enigmatunes]

Anyone else working like this? Problems you see with this method?

Yup, I do vocal comps this way and it works well (for the way I operate, at least).

Is there a way to "lock" all edits so that when you drag a file, all the other files and their edits move with it?

I think I understand your question. If you have two "touching" or crossfaded soundbites and you need to move either in one direction or another then you'll need to select and move both of them if you want to preserve the edit.

[gearboy]

To quote myself from a few days ago...

"What I do is record multiple takes on one track, but set up several tracks labeled, for instance, Electric guitar 1, electric guitar 2, electric guitar 3, etc. I'll cut all of my takes on electric guitar 1 (for speed), then break the best out to individual tracks (EG1, EG2, EG3, etc). I'll simply edit each take to the closest "zero" measure on a sample level, and drag them down to that spot on each track. I'm really quick at it and I would rather take the time doing this than having 10 or so tracks in DP's window to go through, or take time when I have a musician waiting to record. Apple S, snap to memory location, flip to the next take, and then record (after re-tuning!) We can listen to each individual take and say "good" or "bad". Most things get at least double tracked, but sometimes we'll use distance mics for depth, etc. In that case each mic is getting its own track and I do the same for each of them."

"If something sounds good, for say, the first part, but has a spot in the center that's just not cutting it, I'll find a take that sounds good for this part, place that take on a parallel track, and edge edit (or use the scissor tool) and fade (sample level) the good part and crop out the bad part on the full track. Once again, I use tiny (almost) sample level fades. Sounds like one track, even though there's two. I never punch overtop of anything. I just record to a parallel track. It's so much easier for the musician... and me!!! Besides, trying to punch an instrument like bass over an existing track of bass always leaves you with a "click" or "pop" at the punch point, since those frequencies are so large and the punched waveform is almost never at a zero crossing. Using two tracks and comping them together with fades is so much cleaner. Then you can bounce them into one track or assign them to an Aux track for mixing."

Jeff

[draudio2u]

This all sounds good, Jeff I understand your method, but when I am tracking two mics for MS Decoding, I would need stereo tracks all with the Decode plug in running. I already have a very slight (very very slight) delay that I hope is not going to cause a problem fr the musician (running at buffer 64 work priority high). I think fo this session I will record take by take in the same track, audition, then edit in a "destination" master track. This way we can keep the session rolling. While they break, I will edit, then we all review.

BTW, problem with sellecting all parts to move a soundfile and not loose other edits - what if you are recording an hour of music with a hundred plus edits? I hate zooming all the way out, dragging across all the sound files to sellect them, and then fin tune the original edit I need to tweak. Hey MOTU, how about a "lock down" button in DP5!?

Thanks for all your help.

[musicarteca]

I think fo this session I will record take by take in the same track, audition, then edit in a "destination" master track. This way we can keep the session rolling. While they break, I will edit, then we all review.

BTW, problem with sellecting all parts to move a soundfile and not loose other edits - what if you are recording an hour of music with a hundred plus edits? I hate zooming all the way out, dragging across all the sound files to sellect them, and then fin tune the original edit I need to tweak. Hey MOTU, how about a "lock down" button in DP5!?

Thanks for all your help.

Consider creating a new empty master take instead of a new master track, and then just copy and paste the selected segments using time range selections into the new take. It will save you a lot of time and will dimish track clutering.

[draudio2u]

right, of course Alex. thanks