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Fender or Gibson
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:19 am
by FRIAS
Hi,
i'm a spanish musician and I'm involving in the difficult jazz guitar world. I have a great Amplifier: Gibson Goldtone 60W. But is too heavy to move for play in a nightclub. I'm looking for a small one that I can move easily.
Can you help me?
thank you
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:43 pm
by KWEBB
FENDERS- DELUXE 1-12, VIBROLUX 2-10 Great JAZZ amps.
PEAVEY-CLASSIC 30 1-12 Great also.
POLYTONE amps stay clean if thats what you want.
These amps are not heavy.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:48 am
by roccoc
you cant go wrong with a fender deluxe.....
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:12 pm
by yofo
I have a new Fender Deluxe and a 70's Twin Reverb amongst others .Also , my store has the Gibson Goldtone 60W that Frias said he had and so my 2 cents worth is that the Deluxe is too small and underpowered (1x12 -22 watts)to get the fat jazz tone . Stay with the amp you have . I have had people in my guitar store say exactly what the poster said , I want the Jazz tone but I'm tired of carrying around a big amp and so I tell them to stop being a big sissy. ( not really , that would get me fired and I have a kid in college ) Dont get me wrong , I love my Deluxe but when I run my ES 175 to it and turn it up even a little bit , the bass notes fart out a bit .
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:02 am
by shankyboy
The "standard" for good clean jazz amps has always been the Roland JC-120 but that is a big amp. I know they have a smaller 1X12 version of that amp. I think it's a JC-30.
I recently picked up one of those Fender Blues Juniors with the lacquered tweed and the Jensen P-12. Not what I would call a super clean amp, but it is just perfect for my Blues gigs. Guitar in one hand and this little amp in the other and I am good to go.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:26 pm
by ed belknap
shankyboy wrote:The "standard" for good clean jazz amps has always been the Roland JC-120.
Hardly. If there is such a thing as a "standard" it's probably a Fender Twin Reverb (just ask Wes Montgomery) or a Polytone MiniBrute (just ask Joe Pass).
Oh wait, they're both dead.
I've never met a traditional jazz guitarist who embraced the Roland JC120. They will tolerate them because they can get loud without distorting, but there's way too much tonal shaping going on in a JC120 to appeal to a diehard jazzbo. Most of the old school guys playing swing & bebop on deep body archtops would rather play through a bass amp than a JC120.
On the other hand, I've encountered a lot of rock guitarists who hear a JC120 and think "gosh, that's really clean [i.e., undistorted], it must be a jazz amp."
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:32 pm
by shankyboy
Well Ed, perhaps I should rephrase my statement. Most of the old school jazzers that I have come across played a JC-120 and I have read many magazines that referred to it as the standard.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:45 pm
by KWEBB
The newwer fender hot rod deluxe is 40 watts and it stays fairly clean at louder settings.
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:06 pm
by dosuna11
If you have the $ think about an Evans Amp.
Roland Cube
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:32 pm
by FRIAS
Hello guys,
thank you for you "hot help". I have decide to buy the Roland Cube 60W. it's small and is not heavy. It has a good sound to play in a club and for the use I'll do it is the better choice for me. Thank you very much.
I'll see you.
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:04 am
by Kawentzmann
ed belknap wrote:shankyboy wrote:The "standard" for good clean jazz amps has always been the Roland JC-120.
Hardly. If there is such a thing as a "standard" it's probably a Fender Twin Reverb (just ask Wes Montgomery)
I thought he used a Standel???
KK
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:46 am
by James Steele
I LOVE this thread. Forgive me, but as a guy who hauls a Marshall stack to gigs, I find the "my combo amp is too heavy" concept amusing.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:38 pm
by jaffi
I am with you James. I have a SWR rig that takes a few hands to carry in to the club. But, when it comes to guitar (which I definately have a jumpin' jive at) I use a Fender combo. It's a heavily modded HRD (cheap, but the pcb resembles those of the old Fender combo's, so I get to put my 2M skills to work), but it sounds slick as all hell. I use a 2002 LP Standard Plus, a 1978 Electra Omega and a PRS Arch top through it. It can give you a buttery warm, soothing tone. But, it can give you that slight breakup that really gets the point across when you go for a chord solo. Sometimes it really makes me wonder what a Fender Strat or Tele would sound like through it. But, then I remember the noise.

Re: Fender or Gibson
Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:35 pm
by lane_hagood
FRIAS wrote:Hi,
i'm a spanish musician and I'm involving in the difficult jazz guitar world. I have a great Amplifier: Gibson Goldtone 60W. But is too heavy to move for play in a nightclub. I'm looking for a small one that I can move easily.
Can you help me?
thank you
yofo said it!
Re: Fender or Gibson
Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:37 pm
by lane_hagood
lane_hagood wrote:FRIAS wrote:Hi,
i'm a spanish musician and I'm involving in the difficult jazz guitar world. I have a great Amplifier: Gibson Goldtone 60W. But is too heavy to move for play in a nightclub. I'm looking for a small one that I can move easily.
Can you help me?
thank you
yofo said it!
i am sorry to hear he went for the roland cube, yikes!