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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:59 pm
by James Steele
1987
Amiga 1000 w/3.5 Floppy, no hard drive!
Soundscape and its wretched patch panel software!
UP HILL, BOTH WAYS!!! :mrgreen:

Erik

PS God Bless MOTU!!![/quote]

Classic shot, dude. I have one of me that I need to try and scan in about the same year hunkering over my PC-Clone that ran at 6 MHz (8 Mhz in turbo mode), with an MPU-401 interface. I ran initially Robert Keller's 48track PC... entirely text interface... event lists. Then got Cakewalk 1.0. I think in the pic you also see my Roland JX3P which I still have and love today, as well as an FB01. Great photo!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:06 pm
by Umbrella
remember when DP had the floppy disk authorization?

How I rejoiced when they did away with that at around 2.5 or so (about when the original iMac came out)...

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:33 pm
by surrealka
dbudde wrote: You did say you bought a MOTU interface in your initial post, right? So it should have come with AudioDesk. I fail to see why you felt a need to pirate this software to try it out.
Not that it matters terribly, but because AudioDesk does not have MIDI features, which is my primary interest.

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:32 pm
by sdfalk
Yeah it doesn't really..

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:11 am
by zandurian
Just for fun let's take a poll: How many here have at least 1 copy of a commercially available cd that you didn't ever pay for?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:00 am
by Spikey Horse
zandurian wrote:Just for fun let's take a poll: How many here have at least 1 copy of a commercially available cd that you didn't ever pay for?
....for fun? :shock:

Anyway I don't understand why anyone still has the inclination to keep climbing laboriously up to ever higher and higher moral high ground....

-What was that?

"Because it's *there* to be climbed!"

OK well that's fine....

Forgive me if I return to base camp and get on with ...erm.... making some music.
:wink:

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:52 am
by dbudde
surrealka wrote:
dbudde wrote: You did say you bought a MOTU interface in your initial post, right? So it should have come with AudioDesk. I fail to see why you felt a need to pirate this software to try it out.
Not that it matters terribly, but because AudioDesk does not have MIDI features, which is my primary interest.
Well, I guess that makes it OK then. Thank you for explaining that to us.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:26 pm
by croyal
I'll bet he bought a MOTU MIDI interface and just pirated DP.

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:40 am
by zandurian
Spikey Horse wrote:
zandurian wrote:Just for fun let's take a poll: How many here have at least 1 copy of a commercially available cd that you didn't ever pay for?
....for fun? :shock:

Anyway I don't understand why anyone still has the inclination to keep climbing laboriously up to ever higher and higher moral high ground....

-What was that?

"Because it's *there* to be climbed!"

OK well that's fine....

Forgive me if I return to base camp and get on with ...erm.... making some music.
:wink:
As a student of human nature I just had to make a point - the grey area turns black then turns white again according to our perception of how much pirating is too much....

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:36 am
by billf
zandurian wrote:Just for fun let's take a poll: How many here have at least 1 copy of a commercially available cd that you didn't ever pay for?
I'm not sure what you mean. I've received CD's as gifts for birthdays and Xmas, but I didn't personally pay for them. Why is this even an issue?

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:48 am
by billf
zandurian wrote:As a student of human nature I just had to make a point - the grey area turns black then turns white again according to our perception of how much pirating is too much....

Here's the issue, we're often not clear what is what. In software distribution sales, name the pirates (BTW, these are all real situations I have encountered while working in the software world):

1. Party A gives (or sells) their copy of software to Party B. The license is never transferred. Party A nevers uses the software again. Party B does, but has no manual, and possibly upgrade problems later on.

2. Some 12 year old downloads software from a P2P site, loads it on his computer, uses it once or twice, then moves on to the next thing. His goal is just to get stuff.

3. Some adult, who owns a profitable studio, downloads software from a P2P site, never pays for the software, but makes plenty off of the recordings he or she produces and never becomes a legit customer of the software provider.

4. Some guy in China downloads software from a P2P site, begins to put in on DVD's, even copying the labels and boxes, sells it over the internet at greatly reduced prices.

5. Someone with a minimal income downloads software from a P2P site, uses it to start making money, and when income is increased, he or she becomes a legit customer of the software provider.

Guess which one(s) we went after?

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:00 pm
by zandurian
billf wrote:
zandurian wrote:Just for fun let's take a poll: How many here have at least 1 copy of a commercially available cd that you didn't ever pay for?
I'm not sure what you mean. I've received CD's as gifts for birthdays and Xmas, but I didn't personally pay for them. Why is this even an issue?
I'm saying a burned "illegal" copy. Didn't really want a poll - the point is we (mostly) all have them.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:37 am
by dougieb
Just grab the manual .pdf from your install disc :-)

Or is it corrupted? Let us know if your dpmanual.pdf is corrupt ;-)

BLAH!

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:08 pm
by Jeroleen
Plain and simple I for one do not want to be complicit in theivery. I hope this guy writes a wonderful hit song on his stolen DP and some unscrupulous music exec steals it, makes millions, and gives him nothing but pain for the rest of his life.

"Thou shall not steal" or something like that. What arrogance. As I said I hope what goes around comes around.

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:08 pm
by Jeroleen
Plain and simple I for one do not want to be complicit in theivery. I hope this guy writes a wonderful hit song on his stolen DP and some unscrupulous music exec steals it, makes millions, and gives him nothing but pain for the rest of his life.

"Thou shall not steal" or something like that. What arrogance. As I said I hope what goes around comes around.