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kgdrum wrote:I think it actually would be a very good idea if we eventually have separate threads for DP7/PPC and DP7/Intel
That might end up being a bit confusing to manage, both for the moderators and for those transitioning between computers, etc.
A good first step would be to get everyone on the board to include a signature which includes your current system specs. I have brought this up again and again and AGAIN and AGAIN. But here we are with a new version of DP, and a brand new OS, and NUMEROUS possible combinations people might be running, and still folks are bringing up issues without making it clear what hardware and software they're using. Drives me kind of nutty.
It is so simple to create a signature and to provide this basic information. We don't need to know all the plugins and instruments someone uses, but we should know what Mac, OS, DP version, and hardware interface people are using at the very least. Without including this information posts are much less constructive.
Last edited by zed on Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
kgdrum wrote:
I think it actually would be a very good idea if we eventually have separate threads for DP7/PPC and DP7/Intel
I agree KG. Maybe James Steele or Shooshie could moderate a sticky or even a new "main forum" for PPC users that can't afford to both upgrade to DP7 AND buy a new Intel MAC plus 10.6.
I suppose i have the option of moving into Leopard 10.5.8 on my PPC and may have some better performance in general with DP7 and other apps, So I'm interested in comparing performances in both. I really want it to be true that DP7 is compatible back to 10.4.7 and on a G5 PPC box. Because I think that MOTU just may have a great release here.
Edge Edit - great
Roll - great
Slip - great
Multiple tracks or single track on all the above - yes, both ways
Plus... I did all of the above both while stopped and while playing music. Never a hiccough.
Freeze MIDI to audio - yes
Bounce MIDI/Audio to disk - yes
Tap tempo working better, but it still gets behind now and then. Nevertheless, I was able to produce complete tempo tracks without much trouble, and with only minimal editing required afterward.
Adjusting soundbite to sequence tempo worked perfectly, except that it shortened the soundbite causing it to end before the sequence did. Edge editing would NOT extend it to the end. The soundbite simply ended, and that was that.
Undo works. ;^)
The continuous data drawing tools are all working as advertised. Couldn't be more pleased.
Scissor tool works (always did; I'm just saying it STILL works)
Notation Editor works, but no changes. I have to open it with the command-key equivalent: I think it's control-shift-option-double-click on track.
I'm digging the floating Control Panel. It floats to every "space" where I have windows open, so I don't have to switch back to space 1 for transport. Truly nice.
The Shortcuts Window is overdue. Thanks MOTU. I like it. It also floats from space to space.
The independent window channel strip is VERY nice. So are the track extras at the top of all the edit windows. I'm already spoiled. Can't go back. To anything.
Loving the inline-EQ and compressors.
Masterworks EQ is easily the best EQ on the planet. Makes it possible to do so much! And you can hear what you're doing. It's just great. Sorry Waves. This is my forever-go-to EQ.
DP7 is great. It's once again put me into that mood where I'm just happy. Happy to be working. Happy to be using DP. SO happy to have such a fantastic set of tools at my disposal. I cannot emphasize enough what a difference Snow Leopard has made on my Intel Dual-DualCore (quad) Mac.
Spaces: I feel sorry for anyone who is NOT using Spaces right now. I'm running six virtual monitors on a single Cinema Display. It doesn't get any better. Unless I click 8, 9, 10, 12, or 14 virtual monitors. It takes a few seconds to set up Spaces for any given DP file. Considering that I'm usually in front of the same file for 24 hours straight without reloading it, a few seconds is nothing. But I've learned a trick that makes it super easy. Once you've gotten all your windows arranged like you want them, DP remembers where they are on the screen, but doesn't remember that they are on different screens. So, how do you distribute them again without having to reposition them on the screen? So easy. You hit the F-key for Spaces; that's F8 for me. Then you hit the F-key for Exposé - all windows/all applications. That would be F1 for me. In this configuration, each space will appear filled with all the windows within it, once you've put the windows in each space. So, to start with, all of DP's windows are on Space 1. But they're in the right position on space one. So, keeping Exposé open, I just start grabbing windows and dragging them to their respective spaces with no attempt to organize them. Drag and drop; drag and drop; etc, until they are all placed in their respective windows. Now, close Exposé (F1 for me) and close Spaces (F-8) for me.
After that little exercise -- which take about 10 seconds -- all your windows will be in their proper positions, where you last saved them, each in its own correct Space.
All the memory functions - repeat, auto-rewind, auto-stop, etc., are working fine.
Happy DP7,
Shooshie
|l|OS X 10.12.6 |l| DP 10.0|l|2.4 GHz 12-Core MacPro Mid-2012|l|40GB RAM|l|Mach5.3|l|Waves 9.x|l|Altiverb|l|Ivory 2 New York Steinway |l|Wallander WIVI 2.30 Winds, Brass, Saxes|l|Garritan Aria|l|VSL 5.3.1 and VSL Pro 2.3.1 |l|Yamaha WX-5 MIDI Wind Controller|l|Roland FC-300|l|
kgdrum wrote:I think it actually would be a very good idea if we eventually have separate threads for DP7/PPC and DP7/Intel
That might end up being a bit confusing to manage, both for the moderators and for those transitioning between computers, etc.
A good first step would be to get everyone on the board to include a signature which includes your current system specs. I have brought this up again and again and AGAIN and AGAIN. But here we are with a new version of DP, and a brand new OS, and NUMEROUS possible combinations people might be running, and still folks are bringing up issues without making it clear what hardware and software they're using. Drives me kind of nutty.
It is so simple to create a signature and to provide this basic information. We don't need to know all the plugins and instruments someone uses, but we should know what Mac, OS, DP version, and hardware interface people are using at the very least. Without including this information posts are much less constructive.
I have always said this. Don't really care about separate threads or stickys though. It just makes for more searching on topics. Would be nice to have a nice FAT black line separating the stickys from regular posts though for us visually challenged.
Shooshie, I should have mentioned man, great critique ! Especially the spaces usability. I don't know yet how to use them and need a lesson from someone like you some time but willing to learn.
Apparently my bounce issues are slow MIDI calculations on some of my files and possibly disk access on this new machine with a raid card. One of the drives is constantly kachunking counting something and I think it's causing me a bunch of problems. I guess I'll have to call Apple today about this.
I would still love to see someone tell me how 7 works with MIDI VI's and at least 50 tracks of audio on a 09 8 core with snow and 7 compared to 6.03 which is definitely improved over 5.13 as far as MIDI delays in bounce.
kgdrum wrote:I think it actually would be a very good idea if we eventually have separate threads for DP7/PPC and DP7/Intel
That might end up being a bit confusing to manage, both for the moderators and for those transitioning between computers, etc.
I'm with zed on this one. Two sections for on app would be counterproductive. I wouldn't be so quick to place PPCs into a "legacy" section just yet. There will be plenty of people using non-Intel machines and to split the sections would make it easy to miss something important - by either side.
Keep 'em all together so that I can keep hounding you PPC guys to sell your horses and get a Mac Pro. I know it'll set you back, but look at the bright side: yours will be 2.5 years newer than mine, and you'll soon get to hound ME to get the latest MacPro, which will do stuff mine won't do. (like run a 64 bit kernel; mine will run everything in 64 bit except the kernel itself)
Shoosh
|l|OS X 10.12.6 |l| DP 10.0|l|2.4 GHz 12-Core MacPro Mid-2012|l|40GB RAM|l|Mach5.3|l|Waves 9.x|l|Altiverb|l|Ivory 2 New York Steinway |l|Wallander WIVI 2.30 Winds, Brass, Saxes|l|Garritan Aria|l|VSL 5.3.1 and VSL Pro 2.3.1 |l|Yamaha WX-5 MIDI Wind Controller|l|Roland FC-300|l|
Shooshie wrote:Keep 'em all together so that I can keep hounding you PPC guys to sell your horses and get a Mac Pro. Shoosh
lol that is funny Shooshie,you are a Texan through and through
2012 Mac Pro 3.46GHz 12 core 96 gig,Mojave, DP11.01,Logic 10.51, RME UCX,Great River ME-1NV,a few microphones,UAD2, Komplete 12U,U-he,Omni & way too many VI's,Synths & FX galore!, Mimic Pro w/ SD3,Focal Twin 6 monitors, Shunyata...........
Still diggin my G5 DC2.3/Tiger. . . but the demands I make on it are fairly light.
We'll see how DP7 (and eventually SnowLeopard) change that balance between what works fine with what I've got and what The New won't allow of The Old .
kgdrum wrote:I think it actually would be a very good idea if we eventually have separate threads for DP7/PPC and DP7/Intel
I'd prefer it if maybe we could get more people to put their system specs in their sigs. Otherwise I suppose someone could create a new topic about DP7/PPC system first impressions. Me I'm being lazy and typing this from bed with my iBook. Guess I'll get up now!
At the moment I'm still on a PPC. That may change faster then I had anticipated but until it does, I'll be sure to add my findings in a new thread if one doesn't exist by then.
kgdrum wrote:I think it actually would be a very good idea if we eventually have separate threads for DP7/PPC and DP7/Intel
That might end up being a bit confusing to manage, both for the moderators and for those transitioning between computers, etc.
A good first step would be to get everyone on the board to include a signature which includes your current system specs. I have brought this up again and again and AGAIN and AGAIN. But here we are with a new version of DP, and a brand new OS, and NUMEROUS possible combinations people might be running, and still folks are bringing up issues without making it clear what hardware and software they're using. Drives me kind of nutty.
It is so simple to create a signature and to provide this basic information. We don't need to know all the plugins and instruments someone uses, but we should know what Mac, OS, DP version, and hardware interface people are using at the very least. Without including this information posts are much less constructive.
+1 agree
I know it is probably not possible to set up (James is giving me the evil eye:)but it would make things easier for everyone if a signature with basic system specs of each user was a requirement when people register in order to be able to post on Motunation.
KG
2012 Mac Pro 3.46GHz 12 core 96 gig,Mojave, DP11.01,Logic 10.51, RME UCX,Great River ME-1NV,a few microphones,UAD2, Komplete 12U,U-he,Omni & way too many VI's,Synths & FX galore!, Mimic Pro w/ SD3,Focal Twin 6 monitors, Shunyata...........
Oooops, I mean, I vote no! 
