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Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:12 pm
by arnopolaris
A STABLE LATENCY FOR MIDI !!! this is really the minimum for a sequencer ...
i got trouble with a virus ti...

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:18 pm
by gaucho
Hi, Jim. Vision was that way. Although it seems trivial to you, it has been a pet peeve of mine for years. (I've been a user since '86, hence my gray hair and lack of muscle tone) When working on a piece with a lot of changing meters, and a template too tall to see the conductor track without scrolling up, one has no indication if they are looking at a 5/4 bar or a 2/4. This can get sticky when option-dragging MIDI phrases around to different areas.

The graphic editor does this correctly. I really care about this!

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:22 pm
by James Steele
gaucho wrote:When working on a piece with a lot of changing meters, and a template too tall to see the conductor track without scrolling up, one has no indication if they are looking at a 5/4 bar or a 2/4. This can get sticky when option-dragging MIDI phrases around to different areas.
Okay... thanks so much for explaining this. It sort of illustrates how important it can be to give an example or explanation of why a feature would be useful. I think a lot of times programmers give suggestions lacking examples sometimes don't "get it" just like I didn't. Now that you explained it, I can see why this would be useful. Although being a rock guy, I have to ask: there are other meters beside 4/4??? Hehehe... :D

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:52 am
by Prime Mover
James Steele wrote:Okay... thanks so much for explaining this. It sort of illustrates how important it can be to give an example or explanation of why a feature would be useful. I think a lot of times programmers give suggestions lacking examples sometimes don't "get it" just like I didn't. Now that you explained it, I can see why this would be useful. Although being a rock guy, I have to ask: there are other meters beside 4/4??? Hehehe... :D
Dude, being a rock guy, you should know this better than anyone. Ever listened to any classic rock lately? Full of odd time signature! Yes, Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd... fark, even modern day Radiohead is full of them! Listen to ANY metal. Rock music has the monopoly on odd time signatures. Oh, except for Punk... but everyone knows that's just thrashy Polka, anyway.

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:22 pm
by mike_o
Prime Mover wrote:... but everyone knows that's just thrashy Polka, anyway.

I am going to make a song called thrash polka, thats just a cool thing to say.

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:48 pm
by Frodo
mike_o wrote:
Prime Mover wrote:... but everyone knows that's just thrashy Polka, anyway.

I am going to make a song called thrash polka, thats just a cool thing to say.
I was thinking the same thing!! :lol:

Thrash Polka-- punk meets world music. It could be catching!

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:28 pm
by mike_o
Frodo wrote:
mike_o wrote:
Prime Mover wrote:... but everyone knows that's just thrashy Polka, anyway.

I am going to make a song called thrash polka, thats just a cool thing to say.
I was thinking the same thing!! :lol:

Thrash Polka-- punk meets world music. It could be catching!

in my head I can hear a hip hop/breakbeat style big deep bass kik with a huge cracking gated snare, cheezy, CHEEZY synth lines and an accordion with some really distorted out of tune guitars backing it.


and I want a virtual accordion in DP 7, the thrashed garage sale accordion :mrgreen:

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 3:17 pm
by wabbitguy
The first item of importance to me would be that they work over the code so the product is rock solid.

The second would be that when you drop a MIDI sequence from a file (or EZ Drummer/AD/etc) it retains the name of the clip so when you revisit the track after four months, you know what clips are being used. If there is no name for the clip, I'd like the option to add one.

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:22 pm
by Chromalord
csiaudio wrote:My biggest wish because of what I do on a daily basis (Spot Production) is the manual fade tools like the 'Pencil' & 'Finger'. I used Pro Tools for 12 years and I have to say I appreciate how you can manually draw in volume adjustments. There is one tool, a Finger like DP, however it doesn't change to a different multi-tool like DP does which is the 'Laso' AND you don't have to be 100% spot on the volume line to make the adjustment. Even if you were close to the line in DP where it wouldn't switch to the Laso would be fine you simply have to be spot on or it switches...drives me CRAZY. Then the 'Pencil' tool if you aren't 100% spot on there it will move the volume line to a different volume level...also drives me CRAZY. Also in Pro Tools the numeric read out of the adjustment that you are making pops up right next to the cursor point where you are making the volume adjustment so you don't have to move your eyes all over the place to see what level you are changing it to...it's just more simplistic and a better design...isn't that what this is all about? Making things more user friendly and simplistic?? Believe me I can't stand Pro Tools now and absolutely LOVE DP - it's much more stable, my UA plugs work perfectly without giving me errors that there isn't enough resources when bouncing out 4 tracks (really??), pretty much all around DP is better but this one thing for what I do. It probably would be a simple code change to get the Finger to have more playing room before it switches to the Laso...seems simple enough and would make it so much easier to work with. OR if you were able to hold down a key that makes it STAY as the Finger, another simple solution.

Next would love to be able to Normalize audio without having to go into a different window, select it, normalize it and then go back to the Sequence window....why? If I wanted to do all those redundant moves I would have bought a PC (hehe hehe). It should be as simple as click on the audio in the Sequence window do a quick key to normalize and done.

I would love the option to enlarge the over all programs font size...I'm 45 have 2 21" monitors about 3 feet away and dang it's tough to flippin' see sometimes.

There's my two and a half cents...hope MOTU is listening!

Thanks.
I have been trying to get MOTU tech to change the normalize function for years- makes no sense it restricting its function in the manner in which it does.

They need to upgrade to Solo functions- they are so limited

The Split notes page is severely outdated- how about a user defined matrix

I use a LOT of Spectral editing but this is one of the few windows that closes every time you execute- this is a MAJOR pain in the butt.

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:19 pm
by James Steele
Prime Mover wrote:
James Steele wrote:Okay... thanks so much for explaining this. It sort of illustrates how important it can be to give an example or explanation of why a feature would be useful. I think a lot of times programmers give suggestions lacking examples sometimes don't "get it" just like I didn't. Now that you explained it, I can see why this would be useful. Although being a rock guy, I have to ask: there are other meters beside 4/4??? Hehehe... :D
Dude, being a rock guy, you should know this better than anyone. Ever listened to any classic rock lately? Full of odd time signature! Yes, Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd... fark, even modern day Radiohead is full of them! Listen to ANY metal. Rock music has the monopoly on odd time signatures. Oh, except for Punk... but everyone knows that's just thrashy Polka, anyway.
I hate most of the stuff you mentioned... LOL. Well not Zeppelin. Sure... my comment was a bit of hyperbole. Unusual time signatures are used here and there by the bands you mentioned, but not nearly as often as 4/4, obviously.

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:35 pm
by Timeline
One more feature request from me.

When there are no plug ins, the fader VU's follow the panpots or show panpot positioning levels as they should. After a plugin is inserted, we loose that and get the effects pre panpot but post effects. This has always been a pet peeve of mine. This is so even if you were to insert stereo effects pre by raising the pre-bar. In fact, it switches back to mono if you do that. How weird!

I want to be able to have a button to switch the meters to the output of the pan, including the plugins

Think about it.

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:35 am
by mike_o
more than anything I want to see a multichannel chunks system that functions like ableton live session view, think about DP's song window structure and then convert the look and flow to match the session view style, rows and columns of chunks with real time launching capabilities.

I know DP has live uses but they dont quite meet my needs the way live does.

If DP copied the session view from live but with the added ability to contain automation data in the chunks they would get a large portion of live users to switch very quickly as this limitation is one that is deeply written into live and would require a full rewrite to be overcome, the ableton programmers have said so themselves on their forum many times.

just look at the song window with all its chunks and imagine playing everything ableton style, this would change DP's user base and future expansion like nothing else could, it would be the #1 thing I would wish for - with stability of course.

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:57 am
by Michael Canavan
mike_o wrote:more than anything I want to see a multichannel chunks system that functions like ableton live session view, think about DP's song window structure and then convert the look and flow to match the session view style, rows and columns of chunks with real time launching capabilities.

I know DP has live uses but they dont quite meet my needs the way live does.

If DP copied the session view from live but with the added ability to contain automation data in the chunks they would get a large portion of live users to switch very quickly as this limitation is one that is deeply written into live and would require a full rewrite to be overcome, the ableton programmers have said so themselves on their forum many times.

just look at the song window with all its chunks and imagine playing everything ableton style, this would change DP's user base and future expansion like nothing else could, it would be the #1 thing I would wish for - with stability of course.
+1000

Seriously, couple this with user switchable <--- ,( even better keyboard or MIDI shortcut assignable ), object oriented or linear MIDI editing, plus a way to assign MIDI controllers to an AU instrument or FX globally, i.e. the cut off on the soft synth is always assigned to 'x' knob on my hardware anytime I open that AU, plus some work to keep the song from glitching while editing, and I don't see why DP wouldn't come back from being last in line DAW wise to the top of the pack.

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:36 pm
by waxman
Quality plugins and VIs... I have a feeling that will be the next place Apple raises the bar. It would be great if MOTU would get plugs to rival some of the quality tools that are out there. It would be nice to see them invest in some emulation guy that just nails the sounds of the great plugs.

Re: DP7 THE WISH LIST

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:57 pm
by bongo_x
James Steele wrote:
Prime Mover wrote:
James Steele wrote:Okay... thanks so much for explaining this. It sort of illustrates how important it can be to give an example or explanation of why a feature would be useful. I think a lot of times programmers give suggestions lacking examples sometimes don't "get it" just like I didn't. Now that you explained it, I can see why this would be useful. Although being a rock guy, I have to ask: there are other meters beside 4/4??? Hehehe... :D
Dude, being a rock guy, you should know this better than anyone. Ever listened to any classic rock lately? Full of odd time signature! Yes, Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd... fark, even modern day Radiohead is full of them! Listen to ANY metal. Rock music has the monopoly on odd time signatures. Oh, except for Punk... but everyone knows that's just thrashy Polka, anyway.
I hate most of the stuff you mentioned... LOL. Well not Zeppelin. Sure... my comment was a bit of hyperbole. Unusual time signatures are used here and there by the bands you mentioned, but not nearly as often as 4/4, obviously.
It also seems like a lot of the Zeppelin stuff that's sounds really crazy is actually just 4/4, at least to my limited musical knowledge. At least Bonham is. I always joke that he just said "FU, you can play whatever crazy thing you want and I'll just play 4/4 rock beats over the top of it."

I think "here and there" is a more accurate description than "full of" when talking odd time and rock. And mostly those are things I'm not interested in.

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