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1. Rock And Roll Music
2. She's A Woman
3. If I Needed Someone
4. Day Tripper
5. Baby's In Black
6. I Feel Fine
7. Yesterday
8. I Wanna Be Your Man
9. Nowhere Man
10.Paperback Writer
11.LONG TALL SALLY
Oh, yeah-- beatlesgear!! That's one of my many, many favorite bookmarked links. One of these days I should send you my entire embarrassing list of Beatle links-- outnumbered only by Tolkien links, well into the triple digits!
Now, that Equipment Guide book is what I've been waiting for!! It's a must-have for every Beatle gear-slut.
He played on many of my favourite recordings.
Actually, I believe he whistled or played harmonica on most of 'em.
Quincy knew the score (LOL).
Any time he needed some whistlin' or harmonicin', Toots was merely a hollar away.
I somehow convinced myself years ago that Toots was an ex-S.African, which kinda brought him closer to home, so to speak.
Sorry. Just glad you mentioned him.
He was a legend, as far as I'm concerned.
beautypill wrote:Ok, seriously, what is up with naming updates 1.0.011? Give me a frickin' break.
I mean, I can barely deal with 1.1, 1.2, 1.3. I'm even willing to go as far as 1.01, 1.02.
But let's keep the decimal thing within reasonable boundaries, okay?
I think they just knew that there would be quite a few revisions before they could get to the point where they could properly claim that 1.1 was released. They are still revising and trying to get everything in version 1.0 working properly.
beautypill wrote:Ok, seriously, what is up with naming updates 1.0.011? Give me a frickin' break.
I mean, I can barely deal with 1.1, 1.2, 1.3. I'm even willing to go as far as 1.01, 1.02.
But let's keep the decimal thing within reasonable boundaries, okay?
I think they just knew that there would be quite a few revisions before they could get to the point where they could properly claim that 1.1 was released. They are still revising and trying to get everything in version 1.0 working properly.
So is the idea that 1.1 is not bug fixes but new features? Is that how this works? Is there a protocol for this? Just curious.
Some of it depends on the company-- and how their developers have been faring with updates.
For example, there was DP 4.0 , then all the point updates until 4.5 which was a whole new ball of wax. Why MOTU chose 4.5 for a new manual update is a mystery. The next manual update was 5.0, but then the Universal Binary update was 5.1 (and not 6).
For EW, evidently, there were 12 *revisions* of 1.0 (.0 through .011). These were not completely new builds, just revisions of the same code.
Major revisions and rebuilds would be reflected in the first numbers just to the left and right of the decimal. Other than that, it's anyone's guess just what additional dots and numbers represent the further to the right you go-- and these vary from company to company.
Take OSX 10.4.10.1.1, for example.....
Anyway-- PLAY 1.0.011 is actually the first truly usable version on my system.
Frodo wrote:
Anyway-- PLAY 1.0.011 is actually the first truly usable version on my system.
I'm encouraged! Downloading it now.
RE: software revision numbers: Thanks for the explanation. You're always a help around here, Frodo. Your writing always has a kind, friendly tone. I appreciate it.
Frodo wrote:
Anyway-- PLAY 1.0.011 is actually the first truly usable version on my system.
I'm encouraged! Downloading it now.
RE: software revision numbers: Thanks for the explanation. You're always a help around here, Frodo. Your writing always has a kind, friendly tone. I appreciate it.
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Good luck with it, beautypill.
Just be sure to put instances in the Dock when you're not using them. Otherwise, they'll just get in the way.
Also, in the browser section, click on the drive-- then click in the next browser window to the right. The directory appears (finally), at least on my system.
There *are* other lingering peculiarities, but they're not quite so glaring. There should be additional controller functionality with their next update (no matter how many ones and zeroes they give it! ).
A version of PLAY was just released yesterday-- version 1.0.012. It appears that this is the Windows update and 1.0.011 is the latest Mac version so far.
Frodo wrote:Some of it depends on the company-- and how their developers have been faring with updates.
For example, there was DP 4.0 , then all the point updates until 4.5 which was a whole new ball of wax. Why MOTU chose 4.5 for a new manual update is a mystery. The next manual update was 5.0, but then the Universal Binary update was 5.1 (and not 6).
Maybe all the numbers in between are "builds" that are only seen by inside MOTU cats.
Tim wrote:Maybe all the numbers in between are "builds" that are only seen by inside MOTU cats.
Yes I think you are right Tim. The developer probably creates hundreds of builds for internal testing, so MOTU probably created a lot of versions in between 4.0 and 4.5 which we never got, and were never intended, to see.
I have seen beta versions numbered as version 0.0.xx, gearing towards the first public release which would be version 1.0. I suspect this is fairly standard with software development.
Frodo wrote:All I know for sure is that I want a Rickenbacker!!
I just got a call from my music store, today, asking me how serious I was about the Rickenbacker 4003 which I ordered 15 months ago. They said they still weren't expecting it for another 12 months, but wanted me to put down a deposit if I am really interested in getting it. Unbelievable that Rickenbacker would take 2 years + to deliver on their orders. It would seem like buying a Ricky on ebay or elsewhere, second-hand, is the better way to go. Glad I didn't hesitate when I had the opportunity.
zed wrote:I just got a call from my music store, today, asking me how serious I was about the Rickenbacker 4003 which I ordered 15 months ago. They said they still weren't expecting it for another 12 months, but wanted me to put down a deposit if I am really interested in getting it. Unbelievable that Rickenbacker would take 2 years + to deliver on their orders. It would seem like buying a Ricky on ebay or elsewhere, second-hand, is the better way to go. Glad I didn't hesitate when I had the opportunity.
Had I ordered one and the merchant asked for a deposit 15 months after the fact, I would insist that he get an instrument sooner. Sounds to me they over comitted themselves and got talked into selling your instrument to someone else. Now, they want more of your time and a wad of your money in advance.
Hmm-- this has me thinking. I've seen a 381 fireglow in one store with a flaw in the trim (bottom side of the neck). Didn't get a price on that one, but I wonder if the flaw would generate a markdown? It played really nice. Hmm. The same store had new 340 Jetglo that they say has been sitting there for months. The also have a blue 4003 that has Vancouver written all over it!!
Another store had two 4003s-- one new blue and one used black one. They also had a blue 330. I'm thinking I should jump on one of these sooner than later because I'm not waiting 27 months. I may be too old to enjoy it by then.
Frodo wrote:Some of it depends on the company-- and how their developers have been faring with updates.
For example, there was DP 4.0 , then all the point updates until 4.5 which was a whole new ball of wax. Why MOTU chose 4.5 for a new manual update is a mystery. The next manual update was 5.0, but then the Universal Binary update was 5.1 (and not 6).
Maybe all the numbers in between are "builds" that are only seen by inside MOTU cats.
I'm sure that's the case, but it was just strange that we got a new manual with a new logo at 4.5, then a major port over to UB at 5.1--- but the new logo and manual arrived at 5.0.
I'm sure it was the slightly redesigned GUI that took us from 2.x to 3. It was OSX compatibility that got us from 3.x to 4.0. So was it Nanosampler that got us from 4.61 to 5.0?
Frodo wrote:Another store had two 4003s-- one new blue and one used black one.
If you happen to go back to that store any time soon, I'd be really curious to know what they are asking for those 4003s. If I were to buy the one I ordered, the price tag would be $1500+. Wonder what they go for in a store that actually has them in stock?
Frodo wrote:Another store had two 4003s-- one new blue and one used black one.
If you happen to go back to that store any time soon, I'd be really curious to know what they are asking for those 4003s. If I were to buy the one I ordered, the price tag would be $1500+. Wonder what they go for in a store that actually has them in stock?
