Sudden Volume Changes

homebilly · Post by **homebilly** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:35 pm

pro stool is just plain unusable!
don't do it

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:23 pm

I'm not having any trouble with surges. Completely up to date on all my installs.

Shooshie

Tomas E · Post by **Tomas E** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:25 am

Shooshie wrote:I'm not having any trouble with surges. Completely up to date on all my installs.

Shooshie

Maybe there's been some problem with DP and OSes earlier than Leopard?

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:14 am

e-snobben wrote:
Shooshie wrote:I'm not having any trouble with surges. Completely up to date on all my installs.

Shooshie
Maybe there's been some problem with DP and OSes earlier than Leopard?

That's clearly the case. I'm eager to get everything into Leopard, but my plugins aren't there yet.

Odd thing-- it's only one some systems in Tiger. I've yet to hear anything negative about this in Leopard, so if Shooshie's report is of any encouragement, perhaps the problem is theoretically a thing of the past.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:24 am

Oh, give me some time. If there are volume surges to be had, I'm sure I'll have them!

Shooshie

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:39 am

Shooshie wrote:Oh, give me some time. If there are volume surges to be had, I'm sure I'll have them!

Shooshie

Aw, perish the thought. I'm ready for a new day with this.

You know the issue is long in the tooth when you look behind you and see a trail of crumbled enamel on the ground at least 3-4 years long!

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:32 am

Well, I've got to say it again, this combo of 5.13 and Leopard have been the most fun I've had since OS9, and I'm actually GETTING somewhere in my arranging and sequencing, rather than getting to a point where all progress seems to plateau at the Search For Solutions Canyon. For the past 4 years I've just about lost my confidence. Things would be going handily, then all of a sudden everything came to a halt, and then they'd never get back on track. A new version would come out, then repeat.

Now I'm actually getting past that hump. Well, actually I thought it was happening again with the Disk Error 103, but Magic Dave saved the day, and I was able to continue. Otherwise, that Villa-Lobos would be two days from any sort of presentable condition. Whew! I'll just save more backups.

No, I really think things are better now. Everything's just starting to work as it's supposed to.

Shooshie

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:28 am

I sure can relate to the way these things affect one's confidence, Shoosh.
You'll likely remain in that zone where you half expect something to go wrong at any time for a little while.
A couple more projects seen to completion may well do the trick, as you'd expect.

This is fantastic news for us all, IMHO, because if you can honestly say it still feels like genuine progress all these years down the track of MOTU's development within Apple's evolving operating system, the broad picture suggests an ever-brighter future for we DP heads.

Great stuff.

quincyg · Post by **quincyg** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:03 am

that's promising that it seems to be working in leopard, but us folks who are still working in tiger really need this one sorted out. i don't plan to go leopard for another year or so, when apps are fully supported.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:14 am

quincyg wrote:that's promising that it seems to be working in leopard, but us folks who are still working in tiger really need this one sorted out. i don't plan to go leopard for another year or so, when apps are fully supported.

So now I'm starting to wonder if it's the OS and not the app!

5.13 works in both Tiger and Leopard, but maybe there's something with Virtual Memory updates in Leopard that remedies the problem?

It's easy to blame the app first, but I've had another unanswered question for a long time about why Apple was so eager to drop Tiger and to get Leopard released-- even though it missed its own original Spring 07 release date, thanks to iToys.

Making the transition to Leo is not such an easy process for the very reasons you've mentioned, quincy-- third-party support in general. To that I will go further to suggest that the whole migration to 64-bit in Leopard has been anything but a mad rush so far.

On the one hand, Leo felt like a premature release. I suppose it's been out only five months, and many fortunate users have indeed found their most beloved apps and plugins updated for 10.5.

On the other hand, perhaps there were just inherent problems with Tiger which made OS 10.4.2 a total impracticality.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:18 am

Quincyg, at least there's a good chance DP6 will come to the rescue here.
Of course, it'd mean expenditure, but if you're a DP devotee you'd be upgrading at some point anyway.

MOTU (I think) said it'd work in Tiger as well as on PPC Macs.
The fact that further measures have been taken to reduce DP's CPU load alone may well make the upgrade worth it for you.

homebilly · Post by **homebilly** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:11 am

it happened to me on OS 10.3.9 DP 5.01
and now OS 10.4.11 DP 5.13

it seems to be happening a bit less these days but it does still happen

Tomas E · Post by **Tomas E** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:30 pm

quincyg wrote:that's promising that it seems to be working in leopard, but us folks who are still working in tiger really need this one sorted out. i don't plan to go leopard for another year or so, when apps are fully supported.

Me to. As always, there are more problems involved in total with all other applications counted for.

b.g. · Post by **b.g.** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:57 am

I got my first taste of the MIDI volume gremlin as well as MIDI bursts. One variant I don't think I read about in this tread is that of hitting play on a sequence with several MIDI tracks and hearing complete silence for a few seconds and then the MIDI bursting in.

It's kind of shocking after using DP 2.7/OS 9 up until only two months ago, which never had this problem. Reading through this thread, the copy/paste part of the theory seems consistent. I haven't tried increasing the Garage Band buffer, but I'll try that tonight.

That I'm not alone with this problem is small comfort. Practically everything I use DP for is MIDI; recording audio is a tiny percentage. I'm still learning 5.13 and when I started getting the MIDI bursts thing, my first reaction was to swear at the computer monitor. My second reaction was to google opinions on Pro Tools and MIDI timing.

Sergievsky · Post by **Sergievsky** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:18 pm

hmm, your sig says you're on leopard. Oh well, I guess the search for the cure continues.