lost dp4 manual

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:18 pm

the best line no one picked up on "his parents couldnt FIND the manual.it's so easy to put down a 996 page manual and not notice it........maybe it's in the cd case of bootleged toast?have your parents check

Saintmatthew · Post by **Saintmatthew** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:07 am

A MICA student......$20,000 tuition a year or so for some lame ass self important art school and yet he's still pirating software. With any luck he'll wander into the ghetto a few blocks from there and get a real taste of what Baltimore has to offer.....

Gibble · Post by **Gibble** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:28 am

Saintmatthew wrote:A MICA student......$20,000 tuition a year or so for some lame ass self important art school and yet he's still pirating software. With any luck he'll wander into the ghetto a few blocks from there and get a real taste of what Baltimore has to offer.....

Hmmm, well 20,000 dollars IS a lot of money ! Maybe that explains why he is now broke and pirating software (or maybe he has rich parents and they paid for his schooling and he pirates software because he's a knob)

Take your pick

Tera

studiodog · Post by **studiodog** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:37 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_Like_A_Pirate_Day

Why not, I thought it was funny...

surrealka · Post by **surrealka** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:55 am

God, you guys are harsh! Let me personally share that, while in college, I bought a MOTU interface, but didn't have enough money at the time to buy DP, and furthermore, having never used it before, didn't know if I wanted to buy it. So I pirated a copy of 2.7, fell in love with the software, and when I was able to afford it (not terribly long after), I bought it. There are those who use illegal copies of software to evaluate it. And the fact that someone goes to an expensive college doesn't mean they have money to spend on software. Plenty of people get financial aid to go to schools they couldn't possibly afford on their own. I'm not saying it's okay to just use software illegally indefinitely, but if you can't afford it, and hence wouldn't be buying it anyway, I can't see any harm in using a downloaded copy until you can. Just my two cents.

dbudde · Post by **dbudde** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:46 am

surrealka wrote:God, you guys are harsh! Let me personally share that, while in college, I bought a MOTU interface, but didn't have enough money at the time to buy DP, and furthermore, having never used it before, didn't know if I wanted to buy it. So I pirated a copy of 2.7, fell in love with the software, and when I was able to afford it (not terribly long after), I bought it. There are those who use illegal copies of software to evaluate it. And the fact that someone goes to an expensive college doesn't mean they have money to spend on software. Plenty of people get financial aid to go to schools they couldn't possibly afford on their own. I'm not saying it's okay to just use software illegally indefinitely, but if you can't afford it, and hence wouldn't be buying it anyway, I can't see any harm in using a downloaded copy until you can. Just my two cents.

If you think it's OK to pirate software whatever the justification, why did you post this anonimously?

toofar · Post by **toofar** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:19 am

Yeah, plenty of my college mates just stole cars until they could afford a nice one. Evaluations, of course.

Bill

johnnytucats · Post by **johnnytucats** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:13 am

Cars! All we got were pizzas!

dynamix · Post by **dynamix** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:02 pm

Uh Oh, I'm off on a tangent...

College. 1985

No computer for me till the last year... At first I taped my music to my parents VHS, then played along through an old DJ mixer (with a phase problem to boot!) to Cassette... A real pro production!!!

Ahhh those where the days.

My last year at school I was blessed when my folks got me an AMIGA 1000, a truly great yet totally under supported platform and I labored (but still created) with the lord aweful SOUNDSCAPE, then DR. T, then significantly advanced MUSIC X.

Finally some years after I graduated I got a Mac SE30 and Performer. That was about 1989 or so. Seemed like a fortune to me. That little box with the extra memory was close to four grand. Not even mentioning the cost of Performer. It took forever to save for that sucker.

Sorry Frankie, your just gonna have to "man up" and pay yer dues...

Erik

BKK-OZ · Post by **BKK-OZ** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:10 pm

dynamix wrote:Uh Oh, I'm off on a tangent...

College. 1985

No computer for me till the last year...

Erik

Sounds to me like another version of that Mony Python skit...

"...when I were a lad...
...young folks today don't know how good they have it...
...we used to clean road with tongue..."

dynamix · Post by **dynamix** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:58 pm

Yea sonny, When I was a kid we didn't have a school bus!

We walked to school in heavy snow and rain, ten miles, up hill, both ways!!!

1987
Amiga 1000 w/3.5 Floppy, no hard drive!
Soundscape and its wretched patch panel software!
UP HILL, BOTH WAYS!!!

Erik

PS God Bless MOTU!!!

surrealka · Post by **surrealka** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:32 pm

dbudde wrote: If you think it's OK to pirate software whatever the justification, why did you post this anonimously?

Didn't mean to post anonymously; but I've added my web address to my signature, if that's an issue. And yes, I think that software "piracy" is not as clear-cut as the rather self-righteous assertions and condemnations on this thread infer. For instance, if someone steals a car, to use the metahpor someone used here, the person whose car was stolen is now deprived of a car. With information piracy, no one has lost anything except the money they would have made had the person copying it chosen to buy it. If the person copying it wouldn't or couldn't have bought it, the creator is out nothing, but the products of their creative effort have been spread to more people. Given that we're talking here about tools for doing creative work, I actually see this as a positive thing in that humanity collectively benefits from more people having the tools to express their individual voice and vision. And yes, I legally own and have registered my copy of DP. I bought it because I knew what excellent software it was after having used a "pirated" copy for a few months until I could afford it.

sdfalk · Post by **sdfalk** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:58 pm

surrealka wrote:
dbudde wrote: If you think it's OK to pirate software whatever the justification, why did you post this anonimously?
For instance, if someone steals a car, to use the metahpor someone used here, the person whose car was stolen is now deprived of a car. With information piracy, no one has lost anything except the money they would have made had the person copying it chosen to buy it. I

The people who develop the software could (potentially) lose more then
that.
If you need me to explain that to you, then you didn't think very clearly
before posting that response.

denne · Post by **denne** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:02 pm

surrealka wrote: If the person copying it wouldn't or couldn't have bought it, the creator is out nothing, but the products of their creative effort have been spread to more people.

yeah! it's like writing a smash hit without gettin' a single buck for. "hey dude, great song, I've copied it from a copy." So your creative effort has been spread to lots of people. congrats!

dbudde · Post by **dbudde** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:28 pm

surrealka wrote: Didn't mean to post anonymously; but I've added my web address to my signature, if that's an issue. And yes, I think that software "piracy" is not as clear-cut as the rather self-righteous assertions and condemnations on this thread infer. For instance, if someone steals a car, to use the metahpor someone used here, the person whose car was stolen is now deprived of a car. With information piracy, no one has lost anything except the money they would have made had the person copying it chosen to buy it. If the person copying it wouldn't or couldn't have bought it, the creator is out nothing, but the products of their creative effort have been spread to more people. Given that we're talking here about tools for doing creative work, I actually see this as a positive thing in that humanity collectively benefits from more people having the tools to express their individual voice and vision. And yes, I legally own and have registered my copy of DP. I bought it because I knew what excellent software it was after having used a "pirated" copy for a few months until I could afford it.

The copyright laws would disagree with you. For what it's worth, since MOTU owns the copyrights to DP, then it's their prerogative whether to provide "demo/lower cost" versions of their software so that people can try before they buy. MOTU does in fact provide a lower cost limited version of DP called Audio Desk. It's free with every audio interface and is much cheaper than DP if you buy it outright. So there should be no real reason to need to pirate this to figure out if you like it. You did say you bought a MOTU interface in your initial post, right? So it should have come with AudioDesk. I fail to see why you felt a need to pirate this software to try it out.

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