You give up?Gravity Jim wrote: I give up.
Already? But you never even got started with anything other than making straw men of whatever I wrote...
You never addressed any of my points, so I don't know what you're giving up, other than defending DP with zealous (but empty) conviction in the face of uncomfortable facts (and without any convincing counter-arguments).
What are your counter-arguments anyway? What is it exactly you're defending? I'm still not clear on that.
It's actually MIDI AND audio tracks, and aux tracks and master tracks, as well as the Conductor Track. It happens wherever there is automation with timeline edits and track/MIDI/audio edit moves, as I keep explaining.Gravity Jim wrote: I don't work like you screw-counters who edit and edit and edit and edit your little MIDI tracks.
Ok. So you never automate anything and you never move tracks and you never do anything to the timeline (otherwise you'd at least notice them, like everyone else, even if they don't bother you personally).
Why do you feel the need to try to paint my music-production work as some kind of crazy anti-musical stuff that nobody else does? The issues I've pointed out affect A LOT of people who do all kinds of different things in all sorts of ways. You make it sound as if I were programming a robot, instead of making my computer/equipment move air in pleasant ways, as we all do one way or another. Why?
We all automate our VIs with CCs, do we not? We all automate audio tracks most of the time, yes? We all move soundbites and MIDI regions all the time. So what's so "special" or so alien about what I'm asking? If you do music using a computer, you MUST do at least some of those things. So why paint them as something so weird or unusual? Could it be the erection of another straw man?
Got it.
Simply say that you are not affected by any of that because you don't use it, which doesn't mean many others don't have to deal with it for our jobs on a daily basis, irrespective of what you think of the gig (yet ANOTHER red-herring).
I haven't come even remotely close to a personal attack. Just keep reading into what I write whatever you wish to find.Gravity Jim wrote: And I suggest you watch what you say, dude. You are veering dangerously close to personal attacks, especially that bullsh•• comparing me to American politicians.
Also, I didn't compare you to politicians, especially not American politicians. What I did write was, that if you keep comically and blindly denying the issues without addressing them, like you've been doing all along, your non-arguments (i.e., what you write), not you, sound as vacuous and comic as our (not your) politicians'.
Do I really need to explain how none of that means I'm calling you a politician? It just means that, for some strange reason, you're using the same predictable and boring tactics, which BTW, are not exclusive to politicians... It's a common trade from all kinds of people who deny facts when confronted with evidence or strong arguments and don't want to accept it and NEED to "win some internet argument", as you've beautifully exemplified so far.
Why is it better to ignore the relevant issues I mentioned instead of fixing them, again?
What do you actually propose, if anything?
Oh! So there it is, the F-bomb in all its splendid glory!Gravity Jim wrote:•••• you.
Finally. The proper and mature thing to do when discussing software in lieu of any convincing arguments
THAT is the definition of a personal attack, as opposed to what you accused me of.
So you have only attacks, red-herrings and straw men, but not one decent argument to properly demonstrate why all of what I wrote in the OP is crazy, dumb and totally unnecessary (since DP is apparently beyond improvement for you).
So what are your arguments in favour of NOT doing anything to fix any of the problems we've been discussing, the ones I laid out in my OP? Let us hear them and why DP works better now as is.
