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Re: what's going to work with dp 8 what's not?

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One thing that's not working for me is .dv video files (the only format that can be output via Firewire). Though the manual says the format is supported, DP8 does not recognize .dvs. [sorry i posted this elsewhere too]
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Re: what's going to work with dp 8 what's not?

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zed wrote:
Shooshie wrote:Kontakt 4
Crap. I didn't realize I was going to have to do that upgrade in order for DP8 to work in 64-bit.

My plan had been to buy Komplete 8 or 9 or whatever it was when it went on sale this summer/September, but I didn't have enough money to tackle it this year (and neither did I hear about the usual big NI sale). I'm not that keen on an individual Kontakt upgrade when I wanted to upgrade the whole Komplete schibango. I guess I'll have to find out how much it will set me back to do the Kontakt upgrade individually.

Hey Zed,
I have a hunch that Komplete9 is going to be released November or December.
NI just officially launched the new Maschine and 1.8,Oct. 1st so I think there going to get Maschine out there and then launch Komplete9 in time for the holiday season & NAMM.
I met up with a person from NI a week or 2 ago and he told me about some of the new libraries in Komplete9 and confirmed to me some of what would be included as well as what wouldn't be in Komplete9.
He didn't tell me everything such as what would be in which bundle or what standards would be updated but he gave me enough info for me to think the release is pretty close........
The point I'm trying to make is if I were in your position I'd try to find a retailer,not NI that might be stuck with Komplete8 and see if you can get them to sell you K8 as a clearance sale item.
NI had their sale,maybe they will have another one, I don't know but if a store has K8 still they might be desperate to get rid of it before K9 or K9U gets released.
I have K8U and it's great but if you can get K8 at a bargain price later you can get in on the Komplete9 or Komplete9U
upgrade path.
Example as an upgrade last December I went from K7 to K8U through a retailer who gave me a discount for $399,a bargain! ;-)
So I'd look for a store that is stuck with K8 and wants to move it before K9 gets released.
Hope this makes sense.
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Re: what's going to work with dp 8 what's not?

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toodamnhip wrote:Sampletank 2-Ouch!
The good news about SampleTank is that even though IK is not making any promises, they assured me that their intent is to make the transition to SampleTank 3 as smooth as possible for their customers and that it is hoped that users will be able to seemlessly open previous instances of SampleTank 2 with SampleTank 3 when it has been installed. That's great news.

Unfortunately they told me that it is too much work to prepare an interim 64-bit version of ST2, so we will have to keep waiting a few more months until the release of ST3.

But the fact that I may not have to save all my combis and do a lot of back and forth between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of DP8 is very pleasing to me. I'm happy to wait a little bit. :-)
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Re: what's going to work with dp 8 what's not?

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zed wrote:
toodamnhip wrote:Sampletank 2-Ouch!
The good news about SampleTank is that even though IK is not making any promises, they assured me that their intent is to make the transition to SampleTank 3 as smooth as possible for their customers and that it is hoped that users will be able to seemlessly open previous instances of SampleTank 2 with SampleTank 3 when it has been installed. That's great news.

Unfortunately they told me that it is too much work to prepare an interim 64-bit version of ST2, so we will have to keep waiting a few more months until the release of ST3.

But the fact that I may not have to save all my combis and do a lot of back and forth between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of DP8 is very pleasing to me. I'm happy to wait a little bit. :-)
It makes sense they continue to support ST2. For one thing, they sell libraries to ST2 like crazy so it is just good business to not leave us all in a ditch with ST3.
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A rep from IK told me that Sampletank 3 should be ready for release in January(hopefully).
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kgdrum wrote:I have a hunch that Komplete9 is going to be released November or December.
This is good information, thanks KG! I wondered why their distributers didn't have the usual half price summer sale. I wasn't sure I had just missed it or if it hadn't happened. If your hunch is correct, there will probably be some clearance sales announced soon.
kgdrum wrote:I met up with a person from NI a week or 2 ago and he told me about some of the new libraries in Komplete9 and confirmed to me some of what would be included as well as what wouldn't be in Komplete9.
Are you able to reveal whether the complete range of Abbey Road Drums will be included in K9? I also was hoping that Alicia's Keys would be added and that none of the Scarbee stuff would be taken away. Can you confirm or deny, privately, if necessary?
kgdrum wrote:I have K8U and it's great but if you can get K8 at a bargain price later you can get in on the Komplete9 or Komplete9U upgrade path.
I will definitely investigate this.

The truth is I was hoping for a good deal on K8U... something even less than $399 if I could still find it at this late date. But since everything is on a hard drive, I wondered if any unsold copies were just sent back to NI to have K9U written onto them instead.

I think K8U (Kontakt 8 Ultimate for anyone who doesn't know) has all the Abbey Road Drums and Alicia's Keys included, doesn't it?

I'm not sure what new stuff they would have in K9 and K9U that would encourage me to even consider jumping in on that unless they announced some new Abbey Road keyboards or other things I couldn't imagine living without. I don't use a fraction of the stuff included in their Komplete collections. It is just a good way to get all the stuff you do wanna use at a better price.
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toodamnhip wrote:It makes sense they continue to support ST2. For one thing, they sell libraries to ST2 like crazy so it is just good business to not leave us all in a ditch with ST3.
Indeed. They are quite familiar with failure in this regards because the transition to OSX resulted in ST instances from older projects not being able to be opened with their instruments loaded. That required the whole process of going back to all your old projects on a previous computer or OS and saving the combis so that they could be imported into OSX SampleTank. There were some unhappy people, and IK was apologetic and vowed to not make a similar mistake in future. They seem determined to stick with that intent.
kgdrum wrote:A rep from IK told me that Sampletank 3 should be ready for release in January(hopefully).
That's good news. It's right around the corner! :-)
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K8U already has the Abbey Road Drums,Alicia Key,Drums of West Africa(killer!)and much more.... I doubt you'd find it at $399 without an upgrade but who knows.

I do know that they have a new Horn/HornSection VI that the rep was excited about,I was asking question about my desire to import old horn section samples I have into Maschine because most of the newer horn section VI I have or have considered are pretty bad IMO.he said you will not believe how cool this will be,I suspect it will be aimed at R&B HipHop POP Rock etc....
He also confirmed that the new Premium Tube Series(Softube developed) will be in Komplete9
He confirmed Damage will NOT be part of Komplete which I was relieved to hear because I already bought it. lol
Some online rumors about the new Giant Piano being in the Komplete line as well.
I'm not sure what else they will add,update or delete or what will be in K9 or K9U but I suspect some gems due for an update might be Battery,Reaktor,Massive and possibly Kontakt but I'm speculating no actual info on this.

Myself I think the cheapest route would be to get a clearance sale price on K8 from a store thats stuck with it and upgrade later to K9U once you qualify for the upgrade.

They have already had a few Komplete sales and promotions,1 in the spring and 1 in the summer and they added some libraries to K8 to move them now.
so I don't know if NI is planning anymore K8 sales,that's why I'd look for a retailer & see if you can get a deal.
When I got my deal last December it was enough of a discount (list for upgrade I think was $550)@ $399 I got it for the same price as the Summer clearance sale for upgrades and had an 8 month head start.
retailers will discount beyond NI if they need to dump it.
I might be wrong and maybe NI will discount more next week,who knows. But I think you'll get the best bang for the buck going for K8 & upgrade to K9U later when that starts getting discounted.
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Kontakt 4 and 5 are on my list to test today in DP8, 64 bit. Keep in mind, that Kontakt 5 user database functions are broken at least as of a month ago, so, in my case, I use both versions to maintain the ability to tag Instruments in v4.
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Shooshie wrote:snip

The following ARE working for me in 64 bit DP8:

Altiverb 7

Shooshie
You are meaning the AU of AV7 and not MAS correct???
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frankf wrote:Kontakt 4 and 5 are on my list to test today in DP8, 64 bit. Keep in mind, that Kontakt 5 user database functions are broken at least as of a month ago, so, in my case, I use both versions to maintain the ability to tag Instruments in v4.
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labman wrote:
Shooshie wrote:snip

The following ARE working for me in 64 bit DP8:

Altiverb 7

Shooshie
You are meaning the AU of AV7 and not MAS correct???
Yes. MAS doesn't seem to work. I haven't experimented with it yet, but I had to use AU. VST also appears to work. Just not MAS.

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Aram @ Audioease says they are working on 64bit MAS.
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zed wrote:
toodamnhip wrote:Sampletank 2-Ouch!
The good news about SampleTank is that even though IK is not making any promises, they assured me that their intent is to make the transition to SampleTank 3 as smooth as possible for their customers and that it is hoped that users will be able to seemlessly open previous instances of SampleTank 2 with SampleTank 3 when it has been installed. That's great news.

Unfortunately they told me that it is too much work to prepare an interim 64-bit version of ST2, so we will have to keep waiting a few more months until the release of ST3.


But the fact that I may not have to save all my combis and do a lot of back and forth between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of DP8 is very pleasing to me. I'm happy to wait a little bit. :-)

Good news I have enough to keep busy for now but ST has been a useful necessity for me.
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