Re: DP 9 or 10 with the NEW MBP!!
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:58 am
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Until I went from 20G to 32G RAM, my system would choke on occasion. My many open browser tabs (over 100 on 3 monitors is normal for my job) is definitely the culprit but DP would freeze if I hadn't closed my browser first—better if I rebooted. I was able to trace this to RAM and haven't had a problem since I upgraded to 32G. There are times when I have only 1.2G free. Yes, virtual RAM works well but sometimes it's not fast enough.Michael Canavan wrote:Just wanted to toss this out there, and more tech inclined people, feel free to shoot me down, it's a slightly informed opinion, not based entirely on empirical evidence.
People are freaking out because PC laptops have 32GB options for RAM, but has anyone even thought about what RAM does and how it works when you run out? OSX uses swap space on your drives to compensate when RAM taps out, which in days of old (yesterday), meant slow hard drives. ...
All that said I would be a fool to upgrade, writing this on a 2012 2.7 four core with 16GB RAM, it's still competitive in tests against the latest MacBooks. Don't get fooled by marketing, Geekbench at least in my experience is accurate.
I am disappointed the new MBP does not have 32gig Ram option. Will only 16g ram impact performance to the point a new MBP will not be as fast as the 2013 Intel 3.5 6 core MacPro trashcan?mikehalloran wrote: Until I went from 20G to 32G RAM, my system would choke on occasion. My many open browser tabs (over 100 on 3 monitors is normal for my job) is definitely the culprit but DP would freeze if I hadn't closed my browser first—better if I rebooted. I was able to trace this to RAM and haven't had a problem since I upgraded to 32G. There are times when I have only 1.2G free. Yes, virtual RAM works well but sometimes it's not fast enough.
This was after I upgraded to an internal SSD. It was much worse before.
I don't know. It's hard for me to say. My browser is clearly the RAM hog in my setup. Otoh, I don't have the heavy VI use that so many others do.waxman wrote:I am disappointed the new MBP does not have 32gig Ram option. Will only 16g ram impact performance to the point a new MBP will not be as fast as the 2013 Intel 3.5 6 core MacPro trashcan?mikehalloran wrote: Until I went from 20G to 32G RAM, my system would choke on occasion. My many open browser tabs (over 100 on 3 monitors is normal for my job) is definitely the culprit but DP would freeze if I hadn't closed my browser first—better if I rebooted. I was able to trace this to RAM and haven't had a problem since I upgraded to 32G. There are times when I have only 1.2G free. Yes, virtual RAM works well but sometimes it's not fast enough.
This was after I upgraded to an internal SSD. It was much worse before.
I don't know. It's hard for me to say. My browser is clearly the RAM hog in my setup. Otoh, I don't have the heavy VI use that so many others do.[/quote]mikehalloran wrote: I am disappointed the new MBP does not have 32gig Ram option. Will only 16g ram impact performance to the point a new MBP will not be as fast as the 2013 Intel 3.5 6 core MacPro trashcan?
Make sure you get the i7 chip. The i5 does not have an FPU. With DP, it does make a difference as I discovered.Does anybody know of anything in the new MBP that would significantly slow it down compared to my 3.5 six core MacPro trash can?
Yeah; two missing cores, possible thermal throttling, and less RAM. But still, a lot of power in a very small space!Does anybody know of anything in the new MBP that would significantly slow it down compared to my 3.5 six core MacPro trash can?
That is my concern... I was ok with it when I thought it was 32gig RAM. Thermal throttling? Yikes... My purpose is to be mobile. I am concerned now if a mobile state of the art rig will be feasible.HCMarkus wrote:Yeah; two missing cores, possible thermal throttling, and less RAM. But still, a lot of power in a very small space!Does anybody know of anything in the new MBP that would significantly slow it down compared to my 3.5 six core MacPro trash can?
The guy at the Apple store said just buy the MBpro and try it for a couple weeks and bring it back if I don't like it... that is what I will do. If it throttles or can't handle at least at the level of my 2013 MacPro I am going to be bummed...HCMarkus wrote:Yeah; two missing cores, possible thermal throttling, and less RAM. But still, a lot of power in a very small space!Does anybody know of anything in the new MBP that would significantly slow it down compared to my 3.5 six core MacPro trash can?
The Satechi Type-C Pro Hub Adapter also works great with the 2017 MBP.waxman wrote:Got Macbook Pro... so far so good. Added the Hyper-Drive hub.
There are a number of reports that the Track 16 runs much hotter when bus powered. If that's not an issue for you, then great. Are you able to use phantom power with the small amount of juice that TB supplies?wvandyck wrote:The Satechi Type-C Pro Hub Adapter also works great with the 2017 MBP.waxman wrote:Got Macbook Pro... so far so good. Added the Hyper-Drive hub.
For inquiring minds, the MOTU Track 16 does work well and is bus powered when connected via a FW 800 to TB2 adapter connected to a TB2 to TB3 adapter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XSC_UG5_kU
Heat from bus power while perhaps noticed early on has never been an issue.mikehalloran wrote: There are a number of reports that the Track 16 runs much hotter when bus powered. If that's not an issue for you, then great. Are you able to use phantom power with the small amount of juice that TB supplies?