Run 32-bit plugs in 64-bit DP

[zed]

Thanks SixStringGeek. I checked out jbridge and it is so worth the $13. I won't go into details, but more info on "why" can be found here:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 64#p434064

My hope is that once the paid version arrives, patches from the DP projects will be saved. That's a minor annoyance but it appears that the SAVEC function had been disabled for the demo. No doubt I'll be back posting here once the full version arrives - but so far it looks like this is what the Dr. ordered for running DP8 in 64 bit boot mode.

Awesome!

Well this is indeed an interesting development, especially coming from a fellow who has been talking about Plogue Bidule for some time. I'm interested and open.

If this runs well within DP, this could be particularly useful, especially for new projects.

What do you think would be the process of opening up an existing project which utilizes 32-bit plugins, and getting the JBridge application set up to accommodate the missing plugs? I presume we could open the project in 32-bit DP8, set up the companion JBridge file (and save it), and then reopen the project in 64-bit DP8 and reload the JBridge document that goes with that project? At that point, I suppose the JBridge file would be automatically recalled every time you opened that DP project? Is that the jist of this?

This is potentially promising...

[zed]

My hope is that once the paid version arrives, patches from the DP projects will be saved.

Are you waiting for a snail mail delivery, or are you just waiting for them to process your order and send you a serial number, or download link?

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Actually, they sent the app in an email. 588 kb and it saves patches. Whew! Yeah, this is my new mantra...

[zed]

Actually, they sent the app in an email. 588 kb and it saves patches. Whew! Yeah, this is my new mantra...

I'm looking forward to learning how this develops in the hours/days to come...

The thing I am most eager to know is what happens when you use it in a DP8 project in 32-bit mode, save it, save the project, and then open that project in 64-bit DP8. Does it remember all your plugin parameters and VI instruments as set up when in 32-bit mode?

I'm assuming and hoping that it does, if I correctly understand how this works.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

You're gonna make me work, aren't you? I'll see what I can conjure tomorrow. There are options...

[zed]

I'm in no rush, really. Take your time and explore. I will be more interested in your more solid findings after you have had some more experience with the bridge. Whatever and whenever you want to share, we're all ears.

It seems pretty clear, though, that for this to work the 32-bit plugins that you want to use have got to have VST versions available. I'm not sure that every plugin on my list of non-64-bit plugins has a VST component... but I know some of them do.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

It's a brave new world, for sure!

[kgdrum]

What piss's me off,over the years,I can't count how many times I installed a plug and didn't install the VST's!! lol

Luckily it will only be needed for a few.
I hope the 32bit offenders are indeed available as VST's.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Grate [sic] minds stink alike. Same here. I don't (didn't) need no stinkin' VST plugs.

[kinnylandrum]

FWIW, I did get both Drumcore 3 and B4II to work in 64-bit mode using jBridgeM. And it even bounces MIDI drum parts without first freezing them to disk, which is what you had to do in DP7.24. That saves time, yea! Those are the two 32-bit plugs I use all the time, so I'm happy.

[kgdrum]

FWIW, I did get both Drumcore 3 and B4II to work in 64-bit mode using jBridgeM. And it even bounces MIDI drum parts without first freezing them to disk, which is what you had to do in DP7.24. That saves time, yea! Those are the two 32-bit plugs I use all the time, so I'm happy.

Hi Kinny,
Great info!
So from what you're saying this seems to work well with DP8,this sounds like a great solution, too bad he hasn't gotten an AU32. ----> AU64 version going yet but this looks like a great way to go in either case.
Best Regards,
p.s. have you seen the new Wavelore disappearing act drama unfolding once again?
Unbelievable!
KG

[zed]

p.s. have you seen the new Wavelore disappearing act drama unfolding once again?
Unbelievable!

What do you mean? What's going on?

[kgdrum]

Mark announced a Glide version2 in July with an August release.
Wavelore started taking preorders & announced upgrade deals etc.... I held off due to previous experiences with no returned emails or communication from Wavelore , people who preordered are still waiting and haven't gotten any product or returned email since mid August.
I will not do the upgrade until its actually released and proven to work.
I love Marks work,he's very talented and
have most of the Wavelore product line but he seems to disappear and not return emails more often than I feel comfortable dealing with.
I had a problem a several months ago with a product that I couldn't get him respond to and he never answered my friendly courteous emails asking for assistance.
If it wasn't for the assistance of another very nice Wavelore user I'd still be waiting to fix the VI I had a problem with.
I've had too many problems with Wavelore with this to proceed in good faith until he hopefully resurfaces again and actually releases the new product.
I understand Wavelore is a 1 man operation but if you go to KVR,Gearslutz,VI-control there are numerous threads about this problem.
I hope Mark is OK ,some people speculate that he stops returning emails and responding to get work done but many Wavelore customers are feeling very frustrated at this time.

[kinnylandrum]

Mark at Wavelore has returned numerous emails from me. I bought Glide II on 8/1, the day it came out, in fact the minute I got the email announcing it was available for preorders. I even paid $89 on Paypal that instant, and got an email from Mark within hours telling me the price for Glide I users was only $49. He returned the $40 via Paypal THAT DAY, even BEFORE the email announcing the $49 crossgrade. If it hadn't been for PayPal sitting on the money for almost a week, I would have had it returned instantly.

He delivered an email with a link to download the first version of Glide II only a few days later than promised, on 8/19. However, he acknowledged it was harder getting it together than he anticipated. Pasted below is a relevant paragraph from his email to those who ordered Glide II:

"Unfortunately, there have been some hiccups in the preparation of the final files (A LOT of audio data to mange and backup, upload, etc!) This means that it will be another day or so before the 1-way round-robin version is ready, with the full 8-way version to follow shortly after. In the meantime, I hope access to the newest copy of the beta version will satisfy your curiosity and/or project needs."

In fact Glide II works pretty well, and he even put in a "keyboard" mode than allows you to play it fully three octaves chromatically, albeit without the portamento. I told him I hoped that he would add that to a later version. and emailed with him further about how to implement it, so I'm sure he will.

Anyway, I think Mark is just swamped, but he does deliver on his promises and his products are exceptional. No, I haven't heard a thing in over 6 weeks, not have I used Glide II on a project yet, but I trust it will be everything as advertised and more.

BTW, on the jBridgeM front, I tried to get it to work with Philharmonik (Miroslav) and it did not play well. It would open and load, but when you quit a project with Philharmonik being used, the bridge crashes and DP does not quit properly. So I'll just wait until Sampletank 3 comes out, which will load the sounds, or use DP 7.24 if I need Philharmonik. I'm a pretty happy camper.

[kgdrum]

From what I've read only a few people got the 1rr Glide2.
There are several people who are still waiting for the product,a few paid and haven't recieved any dl links and several people are waiting for responses to emails again.